FlyBe in trouble again


Re: FlyBe in trouble again

Postby jules48 on Mon 13 Jan 2020, 10:51 am

Well its not exactly shock news.Been rumoured for ages even though they are denying it just like Monarch,Thomas Cook,Wow have done in the past.Selling aircraft,using unreliable turboprops on routes that other airlines are using jets competing against them.I dont know how Eastern and Loganair survive to be honest.I work in the travel industry and been told not to book any FlyBe flights until further notice.
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Re: FlyBe in trouble again

Postby Southendnick on Mon 13 Jan 2020, 6:47 pm

They need £100million to carry on until March, an appeal to the government to defer Passenger Duty tax payment until later in the year, the owners Virgin/Stobart/Connect will put the airline into liquidation sooner rather than later.
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Re: FlyBe in trouble again

Postby Ledhead27 on Mon 13 Jan 2020, 11:29 pm

jules48 wrote:Well its not exactly shock news.Been rumoured for ages even though they are denying it just like Monarch,Thomas Cook,Wow have done in the past.Selling aircraft,using unreliable turboprops on routes that other airlines are using jets competing against them.I dont know how Eastern and Loganair survive to be honest.I work in the travel industry and been told not to book any FlyBe flights until further notice.



I'm not sure how you arrive at the conclusion that the Q400 is unreliable? Having a reasonably large base at Edinburgh means I get to fly quite a few different airframes, and on the whole they're brilliant machines. Granted, they have some general wear & tear, but no more so than other airline fleets.

The aircraft that have disappeared from the fleet have been returned to their respective lessors rather than sold as well, the Embraer didn't fit into the new business model any longer so makes more sense to get rid than muddle along with them.
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Re: FlyBe in trouble again

Postby Cole on Mon 13 Jan 2020, 11:47 pm

Ledhead27 wrote:
jules48 wrote:Well its not exactly shock news.Been rumoured for ages even though they are denying it just like Monarch,Thomas Cook,Wow have done in the past.Selling aircraft,using unreliable turboprops on routes that other airlines are using jets competing against them.I dont know how Eastern and Loganair survive to be honest.I work in the travel industry and been told not to book any FlyBe flights until further notice.



I'm not sure how you arrive at the conclusion that the Q400 is unreliable? Having a reasonably large base at Edinburgh means I get to fly quite a few .



Besides the known fault where the wheels fall off? :lmao:
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Re: FlyBe in trouble again

Postby cometguymk1 on Tue 14 Jan 2020, 7:45 am

That is just a weight saving idea to aid fuel burn in these green times :grin:
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Re: FlyBe in trouble again

Postby Ledhead27 on Tue 14 Jan 2020, 10:13 am

Cole wrote:
Besides the known fault where the wheels fall off? :lmao:


Except that was on a Q300?
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Re: FlyBe in trouble again

Postby Pat Murphy on Tue 14 Jan 2020, 10:39 am

Ledhead27 wrote:
Cole wrote:
Besides the known fault where the wheels fall off? :lmao:


Except that was on a Q300?


Plenty of videos to support the Q400 sadly. It's undercarriage has too often, failed to do the same. :whistle:
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Re: FlyBe in trouble again

Postby f4phixeruk on Tue 14 Jan 2020, 12:36 pm

https://news.sky.com/story/cabinet-trio-to-thrash-out-100m-flybe-rescue-package-11908144

Cue the 'Why didn't the Government bail out Thomas Cook moans'
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Re: FlyBe in trouble again

Postby Brenden S on Tue 14 Jan 2020, 12:37 pm

Having worked on the Dash 8 100/200/300 and Q400 I am well aware of the wheel situation. If you install the washer incorrectly under the nut it spins and cuts the axle off on take off or landing. It is a known issue and there are multiple Bombardier/Airline videos out there showing how to install a main wheel correctly.

The Dash 8's are reasonably reliable and are quicker than a Jet on short sectors, not to mention the fuel burn is next to nothing as well on the Q400. The EMB 170/190 on the other hand is very maintenance intensive and is costly to operate.
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Re: FlyBe in trouble again

Postby farnboroughrob on Tue 14 Jan 2020, 2:28 pm

Love flying on the Q400, never had a issue with Fly-be either. The thing is Fly-be is the major/only operator on many domestic routes and would leave a massive gap, unlike Thomas Cook. Southampton is pretty much 85% flybe and Newquay and Exeter 95% without forgetting their big presence in Scotland and Northern Ireland. The airline looked to be going the right way but it is that time of year. Lets just have a Q400 only fleet operating regional routes for a decient price, it will work.
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Re: FlyBe in trouble again

Postby Ledhead27 on Tue 14 Jan 2020, 6:50 pm

We live to fight another day!!!! :yahoo:
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