Will air shows be cancelled because of coronavirus

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verreli wrote:Now here's a thought. A fictitious thought conceived by me and with no substance or bearing on reality... Caveat over...

The world has two big problems at the moment. 1. Overpopulation which is leading to resource poverty and climate issues. 2. An aging population which needs ever increased amounts of care, is a drain on resource and a drag on the global economy. How do you solve both these issues? A virus targeted with increasing lethality at those in their latter years (see graph above). At a stroke, it would decrease the world population and re-balance the age distribution imbalance realised by modern living and medicine.

Pandora is now out of the box. Like flu, Coronavius could remain dormant and ever evolving. If this is the case, there is no way of containing it and it's likely we will all catch it at some point in our lives. This will be no fun, even for those that survive. Also, and on a selfish note, there is therefore no point in cancelling RIAT this year. The action by the authorities suggests they don't think this is the case, it can be contained and defeated. Time will tell.

As for its origin, did it jump from animal to human or is it synthetic? Is it bad luck or deliberate. Who knows?


That's either tongue in cheek or terrifying :shock: :grin:
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Wissam24 wrote:Also given the typical age range of this hobby I'd suggest it might be for the best haha


Yes it is all hilarious isn't it :whistle:

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Granted, not the UK, but I fear it is a sign of what's to come in the UK this season.

For me, booked and paid up to travel from Australia for Old Warden, Yeovilton and RIAT, I stand to lose thousands of dollars.

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verreli wrote:How do you solve both these issues? A virus targeted with increasing lethality at those in their latter years (see graph above). At a stroke, it would decrease the world population and re-balance the age distribution imbalance realised by modern living and medicine.

As for its origin, did it jump from animal to human or is it synthetic? Is it bad luck or deliberate. Who knows?


Considering the origin is clearly China, and that their president is already 66, I'm going for the jump. :lol:


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Clearly we're all "for the jump" whether we subscribe to the Doomsday predictions or not. RIAT may or may not happen, Bruntingthorpe may or may not have aviation content going forward, but for certain..we all gonna die, merely a question of when? :biggrin:
Regarding the COVID19, I thought the elderly & infirmed were already catered for by ONE of the numerous strains of Common Flue? :whistle:

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Back to the title question, what nobody seems to have mentioned on here so far ( I might have missed it among the dross) is that by late spring/summer it is likely that we'll be over the worst of the virus due to seasonal effects and therefore it's unlikely to be a direct cause of cancellations. Whether there are knock-on effects with levels of emergency cover for large events may be a different matter.
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It has been announced that the four-day Photography and Video Show at the NEC - Saturday 14th March to Tuesday 17th March - has been cancelled due to the current health situation. It's hoped to stage it later in the year.

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Belfast, Dublin and Cork in Northern Ireland and Republic of Ireland have cancelled their St Patricks day parades and events. An emergency meeting has been brought to NMD council to cancel their St Patrick's day events in Downpatrick and Newry. This is rather concerning as NMD council also run the only Airshow in Northern Ireland currently in Newcastle.

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The St. Patrick's Day celebration are next week whereas the airshows are months away. A lot could change in that time. I don't think there is a need to panic just yet.

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If anyone is interested in gaining a sense of reality about this virus, have a read:

https://twitter.com/silviast9/status/1236933818654896129?s=09

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pb643 wrote:If anyone is interested in gaining a sense of reality about this virus, have a read:

https://twitter.com/silviast9/status/1236933818654896129?s=09


Oh yeah Twitter, the source of all the reputable information. Give me a break.

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jingernut wrote:
pb643 wrote:If anyone is interested in gaining a sense of reality about this virus, have a read:

https://twitter.com/silviast9/status/1236933818654896129?s=09


Oh yeah Twitter, the source of all the reputable information. Give me a break.


His local newspaper seems less sceptical than you!

https://www.ecodibergamo.it/stories/bergamo-citta/con-le-nostre-azioni-influenziamola-vita-e-la-morte-di-molte-persone_1344030_11/

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jasonT1981 wrote:Belfast, Dublin and Cork in Northern Ireland and Republic of Ireland have cancelled their St Patricks day parades and events. An emergency meeting has been brought to NMD council to cancel their St Patrick's day events in Downpatrick and Newry. This is rather concerning as NMD council also run the only Airshow in Northern Ireland currently in Newcastle.


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jingernut wrote:
pb643 wrote:If anyone is interested in gaining a sense of reality about this virus, have a read:

https://twitter.com/silviast9/status/1236933818654896129?s=09


Oh yeah Twitter, the source of all the reputable information. Give me a break.


Huh? Why do you think this epidemiologist is disreputable because they have a twitter account? Why are you so keen to deny the evidence?
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Ok... You've changed my mind... Twitter ramblings from someone I have never heard of have made me see sense.

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jingernut wrote:Ok... You've changed my mind... Twitter ramblings from someone I have never heard of have made me see sense.


So how many Italian-based epidemiologists can you name?
If 'None', why are you ignoring evidence from all on-scene experts in the matter?

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jingernut wrote:Ok... You've changed my mind... Twitter ramblings from someone I have never heard of have made me see sense.


Why do you call them "ramblings"? Again, why are you so keen to deny the evidence?
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I'm amazed at how many people I've spoken to that are far more authoritative on this subject than the politicians, medics and scientists. If only the powers that be knew there was a janitor where I work (amongst others) who could tell them that all this is a stupid media manufactured event and that it's nowhere near as bad as seasonal flu.

I also wonder what it must feel like to be over 65 as well. Again, I'm amazed at how many people have uttered the line "It only effects old people and those with underlying health issues". It's almost as if people over 65 don't count. I still quite like my parents and other relatives.

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harkins wrote:I also wonder what it must feel like to be over 65 as well.

Great, fantastic, never felt better. (Famous last words :whistle: )

harkins wrote: "It only effects old people and those with underlying health issues"

Isn't it supposed to be 'old people WITH underlying health issues'. Not all old people and other people with health issues.

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I am 72 and diabetic.

Am I concerned? Slightly, since if I do contract the disease it is likely that it would be a severe case.

Has it affected my lifestyle? Other than washing my hands more frequently and checking from time to time to see if official advice has been updated/changed, no. I'm certainly not using a face mask except at work where I am exposed to grinding dust etc. (I still work as a sheet metal worker building bespoke water features) nor am I stockpiling food or supplies.

It is unfortunate that some strata of British society seem very prone to panic when any sort of "crisis" erupts, although I do agree that the "media" tend to make this worse.
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"Isn't it supposed to be 'old people WITH underlying health issues'. Not all old people and other people with health issues."

It's the latter.
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harkins wrote:I'm amazed at how many people I've spoken to that are far more authoritative on this subject than the politicians, medics and scientists. If only the powers that be knew there was a janitor where I work (amongst others) who could tell them that all this is a stupid media manufactured event and that it's nowhere near as bad as seasonal flu.

I also wonder what it must feel like to be over 65 as well. Again, I'm amazed at how many people have uttered the line "It only effects old people and those with underlying health issues". It's almost as if people over 65 don't count. I still quite like my parents and other relatives.


Agree wholeheartedly.

I would be interested to know what "underlying health issues" are and how many of the population are without them.

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Spiny Norman wrote:
harkins wrote:I'm amazed at how many people I've spoken to that are far more authoritative on this subject than the politicians, medics and scientists. If only the powers that be knew there was a janitor where I work (amongst others) who could tell them that all this is a stupid media manufactured event and that it's nowhere near as bad as seasonal flu.

I also wonder what it must feel like to be over 65 as well. Again, I'm amazed at how many people have uttered the line "It only effects old people and those with underlying health issues". It's almost as if people over 65 don't count. I still quite like my parents and other relatives.


Agree wholeheartedly.

I would be interested to know what "underlying health issues" are and how many of the population are without them.


The main named underlying health conditions are Diabetes,Asthma,COPD,heart disease,cancer and any other that may leave you with a weakened immune system.

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The current high risk bracket is (combined NHS and CDC list)….

Diabetes
Heart Disease
Asthma
Other Lung Disease
Older People

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