Zeltweg 2019

Re: Zeltweg 2019

Postby Andyph on Thu 06 Jun 2019, 9:55 pm

Dear AIRPOWER19 community,

We are aware of the current rumours regarding the potential cancellation of AIRPOWER19.

Any decisions of this nature will be made at the political level. Until then, the entire AIRPOWER19 organising team is fully committed to continue to work hard for you on a sensational air show.

Sincerely,

Your AIRPOWER19 team

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Re: Zeltweg 2019

Postby Andyph on Fri 07 Jun 2019, 8:04 am

translated from Austrian newspaper....


Rumors about cancellation of the "Airpower" in Zeltweg
Three months before the million-euro air show, new minister has projects reviewed: The event could burst.

Exactly three months before the " Airpower " in Zeltweg rumors surfaced : The air show in Upper Styria could burst. The trigger for the debate was a broadcast by the former Minister of Infrastructure and now FPÖ club leader Nordert Hofer on Thursday, in which he called for the "implementation of the event".


Governor Hermann Schützenhöfer , ÖVP , announced on Thursday that he did not expect a refusal and referred to the "great economic significance" of the air show . Ministry of Defense spokesman Michael Bauer said on Twitter that the new minister, Thomas Starlinger, is testing all projects for utility and economy - "with special emphasis on the precarious budgetary situation". That also applies to the " Airpower ". In the KURIER conversation, Bauer specified that StarlingerFor some of the 80 or so projects currently underway, there is an increased need for communication, including the air show . Within ten days at the latest, it should be clear if and how " Airpower " will continue.

300,000 visitors
In September 2016, about 300,000 visitors came to Zeltweg , this year for the 6th and 7th of september 250 aircraft of all kinds from 29 nations are planned, including famous art squadrons. 4000 soldiers are in action.


CHRONICLE | AUSTRIA
"Airpower" in high-cost flight
As in the past three years, the eighth " Airpower " has budgeted 3.6 million euros to be shared by the federal government, the state of Styria and Red Bull . However, the estimates in the past few years have never been realistic: the Court of Auditors complained in 2016 that the expenditures for the " Airpower " in 2009, 2011 and 2013 were each a quarter higher than planned.
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Re: Zeltweg 2019

Postby Wes_Howes on Fri 07 Jun 2019, 9:27 am

Well, I'm glad I haven't booked flights and hotels yet then :confused: I hope it does go ahead, really enjoyed it in '16
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Re: Zeltweg 2019

Postby tankbuster on Fri 07 Jun 2019, 10:42 am

a bit disturbing for those of us with Vienna flights booked.
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Re: Zeltweg 2019

Postby Skyflash on Fri 07 Jun 2019, 10:51 am

tankbuster wrote:a bit disturbing for those of us with Vienna flights booked.


Indeed... EasyJet flights moreover, in my case, which are notoriously impossible to cancel.

If the show does get binned I’ll have wasted a reasonable chunk of money. :sad:
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Re: Zeltweg 2019

Postby p2philip on Fri 07 Jun 2019, 1:15 pm

Latest news: AirPower will take place as planned! Confirmed by MOD according to orf.at

Hoping for more participants now, it does look tame compared to previous editions so far...
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Re: Zeltweg 2019

Postby PeterR on Tue 02 Jul 2019, 11:51 am

On the latest version of the SwAFHF schedule, it has the Draken listed for Zeltweg. :rock: (Viggen & Tunnen to Southport).

Hopefully the Airpower website starts to get updated soon to get some of the items rumoured/self confirmed listed officially!
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Re: Zeltweg 2019

Postby Andyph on Thu 11 Jul 2019, 9:25 am

From the Airpower Facebook a few weeks ago they announced constant updates from the end of June....

Well they have announced the Swiss Hornet but otherwise secret squirrel.
Wonder if RIAT and AIRPOWER marketing teams should find a happy middle ground?
Andyph

Re: Zeltweg 2019

Postby Andyph on Tue 30 Jul 2019, 8:24 pm

Blanix- Team (D)
Austrian Air Force Eurofighter Typhoon (D/S/FP)
Austrian Air Force Pilatus PC-6 (FP/S)
Austrian Air Force C-130 Hercules (D/S)
Austrian Air Force Bell 212 (D/S)
Austrian Air Force Bell OH-58 (D/S)
Austrian Air Force UH-60M Blackhawk (D/S)
Austrian Air Force Aérospatiale Alouette III (D/S)
Austrian Air Force Saab 105 (D/S)
Austrian Air Force Pilatus PC-7 (D/S)
Austrian Air Force Diamond DA40 (S)
The Flying Bulls Austria North American B-25J "MITCHELL" (D)
The Flying Bulls Austria Douglas DC-6B (D)
The Flying Bulls Austria Lockheed P-38 "LIGHTNING" (D)
The Flying Bulls Austria Chance vought F4U-4 "CORSAIR" (D)
The Flying Bulls Austria North American T-28B "TROJAN" (D)
The Flying Bulls Austria Messerschmitt-Bölkow-Blohm BO105C (D)
The Flying Bulls Austria Bristol 171 Sycamore (D)
The Flying Bulls Austria Dassault-Breguet/Dornier Alphajet (D)
The Flying Bulls Austria PT -17 Stearman (TBA)
The Flying Bulls Austria Cessna 208 Amphibian „Caravan“ (TBA)
The Flying Bulls Austria Cessna 337 Skymaster „Push Pull“ (TBA)
The Flying Bulls Austria Extra 300 L (TBA)
The Flying Bulls Austria AS 350 B3+ "Écureuil" (TBA)
The Flying Bulls Austria Fairchild PT-19 (TBA)
The Flying Bulls Austria Pilatus Porter PC-6 (TBA)
The Flying Bulls Austria Sukhoi Su-29 (TBA)
The Flying Bulls Austria Bell Cobra TAH-1F (canx)
The Flying Bulls Austria Bell 47 G-3B -1 (Soloy) (TBA)
The Flying Bulls Austria EC-135 (S)
Red Bull Skydive Team (D)
Red Bull Rotorwings (TBA)

-Belgium
Belgian Air Force F-16AM MLU (D/S)
Belgian Air Force A109 (D)

-Czech Republic
Flying Bulls aerobatic team (D)
Czech Air Force Mil Mi-35 Hind (D)
Czech Air Force (TBA)

-Croatia
Croatian Air Force aerobatic team ""Krila Oluje" (D)

-France
Breitling Jet Team (D)
North American F-86 Sabre (D)

-Greece
Hellenic Air Force Zeus Demo Team (D)

-Germany
German Air Force 2x Eurofighter Typhoon (S)
German Air Force Panavia Tornado (S)
German Air Force Airbus A400M (S)
German Navy P-3C Orion (S)
German Navy Dornier Do228 (S)
German Navy Sea Lynx Mk88A (S)
German Navy EC-135 (S)
German Army 2x NHIndustries NH-90 (S)
North Atlantic Treaty Organization Boeing E-3A Sentry (S)

-Hungary
Hungarian Air Force Saab JAS 39 Gripen (D)

-Italy
Italian Air Force “Frecce Tricolori” (D)
Leonardo AW109 Trekker (S)
Swift S1 - Luca Bertossio (D)
Italian Air Force Eurofighter Typhoon (S)
Italian Air Force M-346 Master (S)
Discovery Air Defence A-4 Skyhawk (S)
GFD Gesellschaft für Flugzieldarstellung Learjet (S)

-Netherlands
Royal Netherlands Air Force 2x F-16 fighting falcon (S)

-Poland
Polish Air Force “Team Orlik” (D)

-Portugal
Portuguese Air Force AgustaWestland AW101 Merlin (S)

-Switzerland
Swiss Air Force Patrouille Suisse (D)
Swiss Air Force F/A-18 Hornet (D)
Swiss Air Force Super Puma (D)

-Spain
Spanish Air Force Patrulla Aguila (D)

-Sweden
Swedish Air Force Historic Flight Saab J35 Draken (D)

-Slovakia
Slovak Air Force Mil Mi-17 (D)
Slovak Air Force Mikoyan MiG-29 Fulcrum (S)

-United States
Bell 429 (S)
United States Air Force TBA (S)

-Unied Kingdom
Dario Costa Zivko Edge 540 (D)
Andyph

Re: Zeltweg 2019

Postby PeterR on Fri 16 Aug 2019, 12:27 pm

3 weeks to go, I’d really like them to get a proper list of participating aircraft on the website! :heyhey:
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Re: Zeltweg 2019

Postby Skyflash on Fri 16 Aug 2019, 1:30 pm

The comms around this event have been so awful that I've sacked it, and I know of at least two others who have done the same. A shame, as I was (in theory) looking forward to it, but the lack of info (which at one point included a lack of clarity as to whether the show was even going ahead at all) kinda forced my hand.
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Re: Zeltweg 2019

Postby Stagger2 on Fri 16 Aug 2019, 1:51 pm

100% Agreed PeterR! It would appear that the "it's on/ it's off" shenanigans have cost them confirmed responses. Far too many (tba) at this stage for my liking. For anybody that's previously attended Airpower this list, should it happen, is very much 'seen it/ done it in sunshine!' :cool:
Definitely RIAT-style Marketing by bulking-out the list with the Cobra TAH-1F & put 'Canx' next to it? Damn right CANX. :clown: This is the one that self-destructed after clipping the Fuel-shed on route to the pumps IIRC?
I'm with you Skyflash, our group bailed-out of Zeltweg this week to cut our losses! :mad:
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Re: Zeltweg 2019

Postby Nwalch on Fri 16 Aug 2019, 9:24 pm

Four airshows that weekend and this was top of my list with accommodation booked but I bailed as well about a month ago as the list was way too thin to convince me to book flights. And we have the Viggen and Tunnan at Southport so why travel to Austria.
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Re: Zeltweg 2019

Postby PeterR on Fri 16 Aug 2019, 10:04 pm

Stagger2 wrote:Definitely RIAT-style Marketing by bulking-out the list with the Cobra TAH-1F & put 'Canx' next to it? Damn right CANX. :clown:

Worth pointing out that's from an unofficial list, the official list on the official Airpower website has considerably less listed!! For example; according to the official website, the grand total of the flying display line-up is as follows:

    Frecce Tricolori
    Patrouille Suisse
    Patrulla Àguila
    Breitling Jet Team
    Krila Oluje
    The Flying Bulls (DC-6, P-38, Corsair, B-25 & Stearman)
    Red Bull Team Blanix
    Red Bull Aerobatic Triple
    Swiss Hornet
    Belgian F-16
    Hungarian Gripen
    Austrian Typhoon
    Austrian SAAB 105
    Austrian PC-6 Porter
    Austrian S-70
    Austrian Bell 212
    Austrian Alouette III
    Austrian OH-58
    Swiss Super Puma
    Belgian A109

Lots more aircraft listed on unofficial sources, including some 'self-confirmations' such as Zeus F-16 & Team Orlik. But taking the unofficial list from 'airshowinfo' there's plenty more on there, and other lists have really exciting aircraft listed such as the Portuguese Merlin & Discovery Skyhawk! With 20 days to go, I'd just like a full official list of what aircraft to expect to whet my appetite. I know when we get to Zeltweg we'll have an amazing 5 days om the spotters package - going on the amazing experience in 2016 - but something is lacking from the information flow...
PeterR

Re: Zeltweg 2019

Postby Stagger2 on Fri 16 Aug 2019, 10:22 pm

Fair point Peter, but my initial high anticipation including the Portuguese Merlin & Discovery Skyhawk was quickly reduced to ambivalence by lack of positive Official confirmations.
'You Pays Your Money and You Takes Your Choice.' I genuinely hope it works-out well for both yourselves & Airpower 19, but 'I'm out & won't be investing!'
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Re: Zeltweg 2019

Postby Andyph on Sat 17 Aug 2019, 3:50 am

It does look like a website/information problem. Even much of red bulls aircraft not yet listèd.

German forum poster with seeming good knowledge says lots of good stuff to come but does not know why marketing are keeping "Sun behind mountain with "surprises"

To me more interesting as we don't know what will come. Like airshows of old.

I see F 86 now booked for melun. Seems more likely for French warbird than zeltweg
Andyph

Re: Zeltweg 2019

Postby PeterR on Tue 20 Aug 2019, 2:55 pm

Few more snippets of information I've read on other forums & social media... :dunno:

    > The F-86 Sabre will perform a dogfight with the Czech MiG-15UTi during the flying display.
    > Unlikely to see Austrian C-130K in the flying display due to issues with fleet serviceability (cracks in the wings).
    > Swiss Hawker Hunter, in tiger livery, rumoured to be in attendance. Not sure if flying or static.
    > NATO E-3A Sentry due for static display.
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Re: Zeltweg 2019

Postby Wissam24 on Wed 21 Aug 2019, 10:17 am

Presumably this is some other Mistral Warbirds Sabre that we don't know about?
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Re: Zeltweg 2019

Postby p2philip on Wed 21 Aug 2019, 10:37 am

This was postet on FB by Czech Flying Legends so I guess the Sabre will be there:

This year we will perform at Airpower 2019 in Zeltweg! And who is coming definitely won't regret it. We (Remark: MIG-15UTI) will perform "Dogfight" with F-86 Sabre on Friday and Saturday 6. and 7. September! Right after CIAF we fly from Hradec to Austria, where we will train hard for this unique performance.

Another information on FB by the Hunter operator states that the Tiger Hunter HB-RVV will be flying also together with Patrouille Suisse just like they have done at Zigermeet last week.
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Re: Zeltweg 2019

Postby Chrisse on Wed 21 Aug 2019, 10:54 am

Mistral warbirds F-86 will attend both Zeltweg and Melun, as stated on his Facebook page.
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Re: Zeltweg 2019

Postby Wissam24 on Wed 21 Aug 2019, 11:12 am

Ah I see, 6th and 7th for Zeltweg
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Re: Zeltweg 2019

Postby PeterR on Sat 24 Aug 2019, 10:09 am

Full list is now online, some awesome stuff listed! :win:
https://www.airpower.gv.at/airpower19-participants/?lang=en
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Re: Zeltweg 2019

Postby p2philip on Sat 24 Aug 2019, 7:17 pm

Su-22 flying and static, nice
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Re: Zeltweg 2019

Postby p2philip on Wed 28 Aug 2019, 10:50 am

+ Italian F-35 Static
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Re: Zeltweg 2019

Postby st24 on Thu 29 Aug 2019, 8:55 am

p2philip wrote:+ Italian F-35 Static

They had to go and spoil it!....
You caaan't trust the system... Maaan!
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