Radom Air Show 2018 (100th Anniversary of Polish Air Force)

Re: RAF at Radom

Postby Abbo46 on Tue 21 Aug 2018, 9:59 am

Do we really need a separate thread for this? :wall:

Just be thankful the RAF are sending anything at all.
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Re: RAF at Radom

Postby cg_341 on Tue 21 Aug 2018, 10:00 am

Andyph wrote:I see the Red Arrows are displaying at Dunsfold and Rhyl - hardly shows that are must do!!

What the hell are you on about?

Also, weren't you saying we should have fewer airshows because of global warming, not a few weeks ago? Sending all these aircraft a thousand miles overseas must surely contribute more to global warming than a couple of hundred around the UK?
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Re: RAF at Radom

Postby Tmyers123 on Tue 21 Aug 2018, 10:05 am

Why would you not post this in the Radom thread? :grin:

And have the RAF sent any statics? If so then what’s the problem? If I were a Polish attendee i’d be happy enough with the Typhoon to be honest.
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Re: RAF at Radom

Postby Abbo46 on Tue 21 Aug 2018, 10:12 am

RAF Hercules will be on static at Radom, not exactly common, even over here.
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Re: RAF at Radom

Postby Tmyers123 on Tue 21 Aug 2018, 10:15 am

The RAF’s participation at Radom is the exact same as the Polish Air Force’s at RIAT then, one flying display and a Herc. So what is your point?

And according to airshowinfo.hu (I have no idea if this is accurate) there will be 4 Raptors, a KC-135R, a C-130J and a P-8A. :dunno:
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Re: RAF at Radom

Postby Andyph on Tue 21 Aug 2018, 10:58 am

cg_341 wrote:
Andyph wrote:I see the Red Arrows are displaying at Dunsfold and Rhyl - hardly shows that are must do!!

What the hell are you on about?

Also, weren't you saying we should have fewer airshows because of global warming, not a few weeks ago? Sending all these aircraft a thousand miles overseas must surely contribute more to global warming than a couple of hundred around the UK?


I should have added Dunsfold/Rhyl are this weekend (same as Radom) I.E they would have missed little here to attend.

Perhaps you should re-read my first post on climate change.
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Re: Radom Air Show 2018 (100th Anniversary of Polish Air For

Postby Tommy on Tue 21 Aug 2018, 12:15 pm

Threads merged.

If everyone could please ensure that they try and post within the correct sub-forums, that’d be handy. :up:
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Re: Radom Air Show 2018 (100th Anniversary of Polish Air For

Postby Wissam24 on Tue 21 Aug 2018, 12:28 pm

I agree about the BBMF. In fact, it's been noted that there isn't a single Spitfire or Hurricane at the show despite both aircraft and their pilots having enormous significance in Poland to this day.
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Re: RAF at Radom

Postby Mr. Crusher on Tue 21 Aug 2018, 12:54 pm

Tmyers123 wrote:The RAF’s participation at Radom is the exact same as the Polish Air Force’s at RIAT then, one flying display and a Herc. So what is your point?


Ok, this time their participation is the same, but for years Polish Air Force has been sending to the UK almost everything what it has (Fulcrums, Fitters, F-16 and Orliks) and all what Poland got back from RAF were Hawks on static... Even in 2015 when Radom Air Show was celebrating Battle of Britain 75th anniversary, UK didn't show up.

I don't want to complain, just show you that this "cooperation" wasn't fair. I'm glad I'll be able to see RAF Typhoon for the first time in my life :)

PS And please remember that this year Polish Air Force didn't show up only at RIAT but also at Cosford with Mig-29.
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Re: Radom Air Show 2018 (100th Anniversary of Polish Air For

Postby MiG_Eater on Tue 21 Aug 2018, 1:38 pm

The Polish air force have been providing the highlights to British airshows for the past six or seven years. RIAT 2013 was saved by the Mig-29 in my view!

Sure, they don't send heaps of aircraft, but they're pretty consistent attendees and always try to send something of quality.
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Re: Radom Air Show 2018 (100th Anniversary of Polish Air For

Postby Berf on Tue 21 Aug 2018, 3:37 pm

What has happened to this earthquake thing?
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Re: Radom Air Show 2018 (100th Anniversary of Polish Air For

Postby Mr. Crusher on Tue 21 Aug 2018, 4:31 pm

I have no idea, there are about 30 minutes after Mi-171 and Mi-24 display at +/- 10:30, maybe they want to do it during this break? But I don't know how without Su-22 and Mig-29... The only way is to make a huge flypast of Polish F-16 and maybe Raptors. Of course it could be cancelled because of lack of Fulcrums and Fitters.

By the way, Polish Deputy Minister of National Defence said that USAF participation will surprise us and "everyone will be satisfied". Let's hope it's the truth...
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Re: Radom Air Show 2018 (100th Anniversary of Polish Air For

Postby Berf on Tue 21 Aug 2018, 4:57 pm

Well let’s hope for something as apart from the M346 flypast and the three Polish teams you can se at many Polish events it’s a pretty embarrassing Polish contribution to a 100 years show. Accepting the issue with the grounded aircraft surely you should get the rest in the air.
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Re: Radom Air Show 2018 (100th Anniversary of Polish Air For

Postby F-BSHM on Tue 21 Aug 2018, 5:05 pm

Totally true... for me it is really strange they dont show us the "reste such as the Sokol, mil mi2 and everything else... let's see what it is the surprise for the earthquake and what is the surprise from the USAF. Apparently the commandant said "we will appreciate", I hope :)
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Re: RAF at Radom

Postby frank on Tue 21 Aug 2018, 8:45 pm

Andyph wrote:I'm not surprised but am a little disappointed by the RAF's lack of participation at Radom this weekend. (and currently no French or USAF I understand?)

A Typhoon might be above par these days for an overseas airshow from the RAF - but I see it as rather cursory.

100th anniversary year (for them and us) - of a country we went to war to defend.

I see the Red Arrows are displaying at Dunsfold and Rhyl - hardly shows that are must do!!

I'd have thought seeing the BBMF would have been really special to the Polish people too - a bit of a task to get there but I'd imagine they would have got a fantastic reception.

I also think a strong showing in Poland would have been seen in Moscow!


Remind me, did the Team Orlik or Iskry come to the UK this year to celebrate our 100th anniversary. No they didnt, we had a Mig 29 at Cosford and an F16 at Fairford - we sent our Typhoon. So pretty even I would say.
Apparently the USAF did an enviromental impact assessment and decided not to send assets. :tumbleweed:
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Re: Radom Air Show 2018 (100th Anniversary of Polish Air For

Postby sebcoe on Wed 22 Aug 2018, 5:14 am

Anyone know what is happening at Deblin in Thursday and whether the museum is open?
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Re: Radom Air Show 2018 (100th Anniversary of Polish Air For

Postby Mr. Crusher on Thu 23 Aug 2018, 8:04 am

Today E-3 Sentry will fly over Radom and land in Dęblin (Air Base in Dęblin is open today and tomorrow).

By the way, Polish public TV journalist said that saw and talked to many people from the UK in Dęblin :P

Edit: AWACS has landed.
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Re: Radom Air Show 2018 (100th Anniversary of Polish Air For

Postby tankbuster on Thu 23 Aug 2018, 8:57 am

Mr. Crusher wrote:Today E-3 Sentry will fly over Radom and land in Dęblin (Air Base in Dęblin is open today and tomorrow).

By the way, Polish public TV journalist said that saw and talked to many people from the UK in Dęblin :P

Edit: AWACS has landed.


What do you mean by Air Base open, public access?
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Re: Radom Air Show 2018 (100th Anniversary of Polish Air For

Postby Agg on Thu 23 Aug 2018, 8:59 am

I see Airshowinfo.hu reporting that there will be no Raptors at Radom this weekend :\

UPDATE:
According to the official information by the United States Air Force in Europe and Africa Public Affairs Office, the United States Air Force will not participating with F-22A Raptor 4 ship Flypast during the Radom International Airshow this weekend!

https://airshowinfo.hu/airshowfeed/2018 ... m-airshow/
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Re: Radom Air Show 2018 (100th Anniversary of Polish Air For

Postby Mr. Crusher on Thu 23 Aug 2018, 9:17 am

tankbuster wrote:
Mr. Crusher wrote:Today E-3 Sentry will fly over Radom and land in Dęblin (Air Base in Dęblin is open today and tomorrow).

By the way, Polish public TV journalist said that saw and talked to many people from the UK in Dęblin :P

Edit: AWACS has landed.


What do you mean by Air Base open, public access?


Yes
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Re: Radom Air Show 2018 (100th Anniversary of Polish Air For

Postby Roughcutter on Thu 23 Aug 2018, 9:36 am

Sorry to add to your woes, but take a packamack if you're venturing out there this weekend (not a brolly - might get struck by lightning) :sad:
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Re: Radom Air Show 2018 (100th Anniversary of Polish Air For

Postby tankbuster on Thu 23 Aug 2018, 10:05 am

Mr. Crusher wrote:
tankbuster wrote:
Mr. Crusher wrote:Today E-3 Sentry will fly over Radom and land in Dęblin (Air Base in Dęblin is open today and tomorrow).

By the way, Polish public TV journalist said that saw and talked to many people from the UK in Dęblin :P

Edit: AWACS has landed.


What do you mean by Air Base open, public access?


Yes


Thanks but
Another source tells me, No access on Friday Media press and VIP only.
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Re: Radom Air Show 2018 (100th Anniversary of Polish Air For

Postby Mr. Crusher on Thu 23 Aug 2018, 11:17 am

I know that tomorrow Radom will be open only for VIPs, media and probably spotters. I was sure Dęblin base is open on Thursday and Friday, but of course you could be right. There's no information about it, I asked on the Polish forums but still didn't get an answer.

If you want to be in Dęblin and base will be closed, you can choose Wąska street in the west of runway or Długa street in the east.
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Re: Radom Air Show 2018 (100th Anniversary of Polish Air For

Postby reineves on Thu 23 Aug 2018, 8:58 pm

Hi
I was in Deblin today afternoon and Base open for everybody. I talk with mecanics, pictures of lot of airplanes and trade patches for my collection. I make a
Commemorative patch.They didnt know if will open tomorrow.
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Re: Radom Air Show 2018 (100th Anniversary of Polish Air For

Postby JamesA10 on Fri 24 Aug 2018, 6:41 pm

Struggling to find the information on any of the official sites. Anyone know what time car parks and gates open for the airshow tomorrow?
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