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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-50822374

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The Alistair Stewart story.....

It's just a tragic and sad reflection on where our culture is at the moment. Just as sad is that he or a colleague did not stand up and use the case as a benchmark for where we are. In a way, AS is complicit by confirming the situation rather than fighting it. He knows he has done nothing wrong.

So quoting Shakespeare to black people is a sackable offence? good luck to any English Lit teachers. ! Do we need new, edited versions of Shakespeare that avoid such references? And best check there are no vegans in the class:

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'ITN has emphasised that veteran newsreader Alastair Stewart left the broadcaster over multiple “errors of judgment” in his use of social media – rather a single incident'

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Berf wrote:'ITN has emphasised that veteran newsreader Alastair Stewart left the broadcaster over multiple “errors of judgment” in his use of social media – rather a single incident'


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-51307706

"The Twitter user involved in the exchange with Stewart, Martin Shapland, attempted to clarify what had happened on Thursday.

"There was not a single post as has been widely reported, but several posts written by Mr Stewart, which have all now been deleted," he said in a statement posted on Twitter.

"I understand that Mr Stewart has acknowledged the words he used were misjudged and has expressed regret at what happened. I thank him for that."

He added: "An apology and commitment to be more careful about language was all that I would have asked. It is regrettable that he has decided to stand down and I take no pleasure in that."

If the worst he said is what is being reported then it's an absolute nonsense that he has felt the need to step down - what sort of ridiculous planet are we living on?
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So what are we angry about? The fact that our society is so overly sensitive that he felt the need to step down or that the language he used was offensive to the person he was directing it to?

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the offended guy who received the tweet that started the story claims that AS was "referring to me as an ape under the cover of Shakespeare". So he knew it was a quote in the third person but assumed (with no actual evidence and no "benefit of the doubt") that the comment was both aimed at him personally and had a racist agenda.

The ramifications are that anyone quoting a third party source can have the quote misinterpreted, cause offence etc etc. So do quotes have to carry a disclaimer in future as the default presently seems to be "even though this is a quote, it's actually about you and I'm using the cover of the original author to make a personal, offensive remark about you"
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What ever happened to people just finding things offensive and then getting on with their lives.

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I don't know how it happened but "causing offence" seems to have risen up the rankings and is now up there with stabbing someone in the heart with a pencil (it's a movie reference , moderators, I dont mean it)

These social trends become insidious and nobody knows when or why they started (like media people starting every other sentence with "so").

So.... I'm offended every day by what I see around me and I know from previous threads that many other forum members are offended by what they see and experience.
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jingernut wrote:What ever happened to people just finding things offensive and then getting on with their lives.



They woke up and became snowflakes,
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jingernut wrote:What ever happened to people just finding things offensive and then getting on with their lives.


I've a good bit of sympathy with that, but having said that some peoples actions can be offensive and even dangerous such as waiting at traffic lights at night with their foot on the brake thereby blinding the motorist behind them. I can't understand why they do it unless it's because they are incapable of selecting first gear, releasing the handbrake and moving off in a timely manner, and thinking about it, I suspect that is indeed the reason.
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AlexC wrote:
jingernut wrote:What ever happened to people just finding things offensive and then getting on with their lives.


I've a good bit of sympathy with that, but having said that some peoples actions can be offensive and even dangerous such as waiting at traffic lights at night with their foot on the brake thereby blinding the motorist behind them. I can't understand why they do it unless it's because they are incapable of selecting first gear, releasing the handbrake and moving off in a timely manner, and thinking about it, I suspect that is indeed the reason.


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Or maybe they are driving an automatic.
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ericbee123 wrote:Or maybe they are driving an automatic.


Indeed. I drive an automatic and and I sit with my foot on the brake when stopped at lights. There's not much choice really.

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DerekF wrote:Indeed. I drive an automatic and and I sit with my foot on the brake when stopped at lights. There's not much choice really.


Never having driven an automatic I wasn't aware of that design fault. One or two of the transgressors that I've encountered may well have been automatic drivers, but I would have thought that they would have been a vanishingly small number.
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AlexC wrote:
DerekF wrote:Indeed. I drive an automatic and and I sit with my foot on the brake when stopped at lights. There's not much choice really.


Never having driven an automatic I wasn't aware of that design fault. One or two of the transgressors that I've encountered may well have been automatic drivers, but I would have thought that they would have been a vanishingly small number.


Exact opposite, 70% increase in automatic cars since 2007. What is a vanishing number however is the amount of cars on the road with handbrakes!

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DerekF wrote:
ericbee123 wrote:Or maybe they are driving an automatic.


Indeed. I drive an automatic and and I sit with my foot on the brake when stopped at lights. There's not much choice really.


Forgive my ignorance but do automatics not have a handbrake for stationary use ?
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They do but I hardly ever use it, even when parked. Once the transmission is in P it isn't going anywhere. When on the road it's in either D or R and that's it. The BMW has an autohold function so I can take my foot off the footbrake but the brake lights stay on. From my point of view SUVs with overly bright headlights are a bigger nuisance.

The days of manual transmission are numbered I think. I would never choose to go back to manual transmission.

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DerekF wrote:They do but I hardly ever use it, even when parked. Once the transmission is in P it isn't going anywhere. When on the road it's in either D or R and that's it. The BMW has an autohold function so I can take my foot off the footbrake but the brake lights stay on. From my point of view SUVs with overly bright headlights are a bigger nuisance.

The days of manual transmission are numbered I think. I would never choose to go back to manual transmission.


Thanks for the info,my next car will probably be an auto,fed up with the constant gear changing/slipping the clutch in these crowded roads where I live in sunny Bromley :smile:
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aceyone wrote:The days of manual transmission are numbered I think. I would never choose to go back to manual transmission.


Thanks for the info,my next car will probably be an auto, fed up with the constant gear changing/slipping the clutch in these crowded roads where I live in sunny Bromley :smile:[/quote]

Think I might join you, as I am similarly fed up here in sunny Barton-on-Sea. BTW, how is sunny Bromley, I used to live not that far away?
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AlexC wrote:
aceyone wrote:The days of manual transmission are numbered I think. I would never choose to go back to manual transmission.


Thanks for the info,my next car will probably be an auto, fed up with the constant gear changing/slipping the clutch in these crowded roads where I live in sunny Bromley :smile:


Think I might join you, as I am similarly fed up here in sunny Barton-on-Sea. BTW, how is sunny Bromley, I used to live not that far away?[/quote]

Much better now you've left :biggrin: seriously though much the same as ever ,the traffic is a nightmare ,just too many vehicles on too few through routes,like most places I guess .
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Once the all electric car plans come into force we will all be forced to drive “automatic “.
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My automatic turns off the engine when I stop at lights. It restarts the engine as you take the foot off the brake.

If I was to move it out of Drive and put the handbrake on, which is a button , I have to press the brake to put the car back into Drive and to take the handbrake off.

So if I didn’t just sit there with my foot on the brake and my engine “off”, as I do, I would have to put my foot on the brake to take off my handbrake ( press the button again ) or to put it into Drive so it didn’t lurch forward.

That would really annoy you if I actually started braking when the lights were changing to green !!!
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My automatic has a neutral for use when stationary (thought they all did but maybe modern recent ones have done away with it). Pop it in to neutral at the lights, handbrake on, no need for the foot brake.
Just have to tap the foot brake to get it back into drive, though you have to be paying attention to the traffic light sequence if you're at the front to get your timing right!
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ted633 wrote:My automatic has a neutral for use when stationary (thought they all did but maybe modern recent ones have done away with it). Pop it in to neutral at the lights, handbrake on, no need for the foot brake.
Just have to tap the foot brake to get it back into drive, though you have to be paying attention to the traffic light sequence if you're at the front to get your timing right!


The driver's manual for my car positively cautions against taking the car out of drive for short periods like traffic lights. I have one or two I drive regularly that I know are going to be quite a long wait if its just gone red, and for those I'll put it in park, but in general, I do it by the book, which is also the most natural and convenient.

Who'd have thought I could be making someone angry with my brake lights though. I'm not sure what to say to that :smile:
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Wrexham Mackem wrote:Who'd have thought I could be making someone angry with my brake lights though. I'm not sure what to say to that :smile:


How's about 'sorry if my brake lights are blinding you, but I drive an automatic?' :surrender:
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