UKAR GE2017 exit poll

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who did you vote for?

Poll ended at Fri 09 Jun 2017, 8:28 pm

Conservatives
43
19%
Conservatives
43
19%
Labour
45
20%
Labour
45
20%
Liberal Democrats
7
3%
Liberal Democrats
7
3%
Green
3
1%
Green
3
1%
SNP
4
2%
SNP
4
2%
UKIP
3
1%
UKIP
3
1%
Plaid Cymru
0
No votes
Plaid Cymru
0
No votes
Other
2
1%
Other
2
1%
Abstained
5
2%
Abstained
5
2%
 
Total votes: 224

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Dan O'Hagan wrote:there'd be a decent man still in Number 10...

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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And if they had turned out 24 months ago there may not have been a referendum, it could have been prime minister Milliband and Jeremy who?

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Absolutely hilarious own-goal from May. She has no credibility, ran a cowardly, arrogant and complacent campaign, with a vicious manifesto.

Massive credit to Labour and particularly Corbyn, who against all odds, has worked wonders against both the repugnant right-wing media and the Tories. Delighted! :clap: :clap:



However, the most amusing thing of the night...

[tweet]https://twitter.com/johnprescott/status/872957575788101632[/tweet]

:lmao: :lol: :loser: :yahoo: :up:
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Spiny Norman wrote:May has to go.

She called this needless election for purely political reasons and should resign. If you're a Labour supporter you'd probably wish her to stay as she's more of an asset for your party.

Inept, hapless, clueless, weak, wobbly - I'm sure there are other words you can conjure up. She is simply not fit for the office.

As for Labour - Corbyn's common touch and sensible policies show that despite the full onslaught of a disgraceful right-wing media that could stoop lower than a hunch-backed snake has shown there's an appetite away from the austerity 'hard-Brexit' Tories.


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Dan O'Hagan wrote:Just think, if those 18-25s had voted 12 months ago there'd be no Brexit and a decent man and natural leader still in Number 10...


Yeah if he was a decent man he would have stayed and sorted out this mess he has caused, like most decent people would do.
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If May does resign and frankly politicians have resigned for less, who would replace her? Johnson? Can you imagine him leading our leading our Brexit negotiations? David Davies? The early election was apparently his idea so he will be toxic in the Tory party. Gove, is he still an MP? Jeremy Hunt, the minister for rhyming slang? Who else is there that will come out of this unnecessary farce unsullied. Who's been keeping a low profile recently? Philip Hammond has been very quiet. Fallon should have been quiet but wasn't. If she does resign, we're back to square one with a PM that wasn't elected and so the whole circus would start again.

Interesting times.

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Can anyone remember a shorter political career than Sarah Olney? Wins the seat from Zak Goldsmith when he resigns in a fit of pique only to hand it back to him 7 moths later.

Edit: Excluding deaths the answer is Robert McIntyre (SNP) 12 April 1945 – 5 July 1945 - defeated in the next GE.

In more recent times Margo MacDonald (also SNP) 8 November 1973 – 28 February 1974 - defeated in the next GE (but she did carry on in politics with the SNP in the Scottish Parliament)
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DerekF wrote:Jeremy Hunt, the minister for rhyming slang?

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :clap:
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Hunt spelt with a C. :biggrin:

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Russ wrote:Absolutely hilarious own-goal from May. She has no credibility, ran a cowardly, arrogant and complacent campaign, with a vicious manifesto.

Massive credit to Labour and particularly Corbyn, who against all odds, has worked wonders against both the repugnant right-wing media and the Tories. Delighted! :clap: :clap:



However, the most amusing thing of the night...

[tweet]https://twitter.com/johnprescott/status/872957575788101632[/tweet]

:lmao: :lol: :loser: :yahoo: :up:

Agreed.

Did you see the disgusting section in the Sun encouraging people to stop their children from voting?

Got what they deserved. Thank goodness the next generation aren't so stupid and can see propaganda for what it is.
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LN Strike Eagle wrote:Did you see the disgusting section in the Sun encouraging people to stop their children from voting?

Yes. Disgraceful. Surely some action needs to be taken?

The owners, editors and journalists responsible should be held in the same contempt as hate preaching. Undermining the values of British Democracy, is that not illegal?

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Apparently not. As mentioned the other day, the Tory manifesto contained a pledge to drop Leveson Part 2 and free up the Tory party chronies to basically say and do as they wish.
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Speaks volumes. But they wouldn't want to upset Overlords Murdoch and Rothermere now would they? :clown: :claypole: :down:

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Pringles wrote:
Dan O'Hagan wrote:there'd be a decent man still in Number 10...

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Yeah some serious revisionism there, he too destroyed his own career through hubris. He thought he could be the man to unite the Tory party forever, and let's not kid ourselves that was why the EU Referendum was held, it wasn't out of some sense of duty to the country. He does have competition now though for "worst Prime Minister by their own benchmark".

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So the Tories are rather pathetically and desperately going to to coalition with the DUP.

You couldn't make it up - https://www.opendemocracy.net/uk/adam-ramsay/so-who-are-dup

The first of these is that they have strong historical links with Loyalist paramilitary groups. Specifically, the terrorist group Ulster Resistance was founded by a collection of people who went on to be prominent DUP politicians. Peter Robinson, for example, who was DUP leader and Northern Ireland’s first minister until last year, was an active member of Ulster Resistance. The group’s activities included collaborating with other terrorist groups including the Ulster Volunteer Force, to smuggle arms into the UK, such as RPG rocket launchers.


The party backed Brexit, and as openDemocracy exposed earlier in the year, accepted a donation of £435,000 to pay for campaign materials across the UK. Under pressure, they admitted that the cash came from a shady group called the Constitutional Research Council, which is chaired by Scottish Tory Richard Cook. openDemocracy research showed that Cook founded a company in 2013 with the former head of the Saudi intelligence service, and a man who admitted to us that he was involved in a notorious incident in which hundreds of Kalashnikovs were flown to Hindu terrorists in West Bengal in 1995. The DUP told us that the Constitutional Research Council’s chair’s surprising links with Saudi intelligence “aren’t a problem for us”.


But for the Tories to end an election campaign which they spent attacking Corbyn for his alleged links to former Northern Irish terrorists by going into coalition with a party founded by former Northern Irish terrorists would be a deep irony.


What a lovely bunch to have as part of the British government. :claypole: :clown: :down:

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Brexit and now this. Brillliant and inspired leadership from the cons. The leaders of the EEC must be laughing their heads off. :clown: :clown: :clown: :lmao:
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She shouldn't resign, that's exactly the oppositions want her to do. End of the day, she still won with a vote percentage that was close to Blair and Thatcher when they had landslides and had the largest party, its just Labour also got more than anticipated. If it was a 3 Party race they would have won comfortably but unfortunately it wasn't.

As for this exit poll and the real thing, it looks like people changed back to Labour from early on the campaign.

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JonG96 wrote:She shouldn't resign, that's exactly the oppositions want her to do. End of the day, she still won with a vote percentage that was close to Blair and Thatcher when they had landslides and had the largest party, its just Labour also got more than anticipated. If it was a 3 Party race they would have won comfortably but unfortunately it wasn't.

As for this exit poll and the real thing, it looks like people changed back to Labour from early on the campaign.

But vote percentage doesn't count for anything under FPTP. It might not be fair but it is how it is and the Tories have benefitted handsomely from it in the past. May's credibility is absolutely shot and she looks every inch a lame duck Prime Minister. I agree with other posters however it is difficult to see a competent replacement within the Conservative Party.

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JonG96 wrote:She shouldn't resign, that's exactly the oppositions want her to do. End of the day, she still won with a vote percentage that was close to Blair and Thatcher when they had landslides and had the largest party, its just Labour also got more than anticipated. If it was a 3 Party race they would have won comfortably but unfortunately it wasn't.

As for this exit poll and the real thing, it looks like people changed back to Labour from early on the campaign.


What makes you think, in a 3 party race, the other votes would have gone to them?
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JonG96 wrote:She shouldn't resign, that's exactly the oppositions want her to do.

She has no credibility with the British public and it's questionable how much loyalty she now has within her own party. I can see them stabbing her in the back in the not too distant future.

As toom317 says, the EU leaders must be watching with great amusement and popcorn. :snack: :snack: :snack: :clown:

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We were the laughing stock of the world in 2016 when we voted to the leave the EU

Then Trump happened.

Now we are once again the laughing stock of the world in 2017 - more precisely our leader is - no credibility or mandate to negotiate on our behalf now.

Completely idiotic call to hold an early election.

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boff180 wrote:
Completely idiotic call to hold an early election.


I didn't think it was an idiotic call at the time, as it looked then that she could wipe the Labour Party from the political map. However the campaign that the Tories have run - aided by the right wing media - was hate filled and full of scaremongering, and very reminiscent of the Brexit campaigns last year. Labour on the other hand have run a positive campaign with very little in the way of personal attacks, and JC has come across as more human and compassionate than the Maybot.

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Yeah, it was probably a good idea at the time, at least from their point of view. But nobody realised just how cowardly, weak and pathetic she'd be on the campaign trail. Now she's been completely found out.

In light of this, I think little or no people have any confidence in her ability to negotiate a good settlement with the EU. Which is what she's pretty much staked her entire campaign on. It's not like we have much to offer the EU either. Bad news for the UK and bad news for the Tories.

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boff180 wrote:We were the laughing stock of the world in 2016 when we voted to the leave the EU

Then Trump happened.

Now we are once again the laughing stock of the world in 2017 - more precisely our leader is - no credibility or mandate to negotiate on our behalf now.

Completely idiotic call to hold an early election.



That's democracy for you, no complaints here. Congratulations to the Labour organisation, it's learnt, not enough to win though.T May took it for granted big mistake.
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She's not taken the hint and resigned yet, then ?
Thus proving she's either conceited, egotistical, thick as mince, or all three.
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