Is anybody happy with the Brexit white paper?

Chat about anything not specifically aviation related
Post Reply
User avatar
rockfordstone
Posts: 872
Joined: Wed 14 Feb 2018, 8:40 pm
Contact:

Re: Is anybody happy with the Brexit white paper?

Post by rockfordstone »

psquiddy wrote:What is wrong with chlorinated chicken?

Don't Americans eat it all of the time?

yes, and as i understand it have more cases of food poisoning because of it.

the idea of chlorinated chicken is that you can battery farm chickens in horrendous conditions whereby the catch disease which is then just washed off with bleach. EU standards dictate a better form of farming where we don't have to do that because disease is avoided or contained.

they also insist that we don't pump beef full of hormones and antibiotics which the Americans do.

User avatar
starbuck
Posts: 864
Joined: Tue 28 Mar 2017, 9:35 pm

Re: Is anybody happy with the Brexit white paper?

Post by starbuck »

rockfordstone wrote:
"Will we get chlorinated chicken? probably. Will it be the only chicken on the shelf? No. As long as it is packaged and labelled properly I can't really see the issue as long as we get something from the US in return and for that we will just have to wait and see, but to write off a trade deal based on chicken does seem pretty narrow minded."

herein lies the problem. once we leave the EU we are under no obligation to label origins of food. whether the government choose to continue it will depend on the government of the day. its up to you to decide whether they will do the right thing or follow their wallets


Where anywhere has it been stated that we are going to stop labelling food? And if it isn't labelled why would you buy it? And then to make the leap that the government of the day backed up by the majority of MP's in the commons would do this to line their own pockets is paranoia and conspiracy theory taken to extremes.

We are not suddenly going to become some banana republic or communist China after 11pm tonight.

User avatar
psquiddy
Posts: 1158
Joined: Sun 31 Aug 2008, 10:33 am
Contact:

Re: Is anybody happy with the Brexit white paper?

Post by psquiddy »

rockfordstone wrote:
psquiddy wrote:What is wrong with chlorinated chicken?

Don't Americans eat it all of the time?

yes, and as i understand it have more cases of food poisoning because of it.

the idea of chlorinated chicken is that you can battery farm chickens in horrendous conditions whereby the catch disease which is then just washed off with bleach. EU standards dictate a better form of farming where we don't have to do that because disease is avoided or contained.

they also insist that we don't pump beef full of hormones and antibiotics which the Americans do.


Thanks for that
Over 300 free things to do in London
http://www.toplondondaysout.co.uk

User avatar
CJS
Posts: 7424
Joined: Thu 15 Jul 2010, 3:30 pm
Location: Hogwarts

Re: Is anybody happy with the Brexit white paper?

Post by CJS »

psquiddy wrote:What is wrong with chlorinated chicken?

Don't Americans eat it all of the time?


No further questions your honour...

The prosecution rests its case.
Last edited by CJS on Fri 31 Jan 2020, 3:58 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"Forewarned is forearmed"
How do you know I didn't?

User avatar
ericbee123
Posts: 2185
Joined: Sun 31 Aug 2008, 9:13 am
Location: Blackpool

Re: Is anybody happy with the Brexit white paper?

Post by ericbee123 »

Lots of fruit and veg in British supermarkets is chlorine washed. I bet most people don’t rinse all their fruit and veg ,as per the labelling, prior to eating.

Lettuces are regularly chlorine washed. Do you rinse every lettuce leaf ?

Edited to add - on some days the tap water smells so much of chlorine that I wonder if washing fruit and veg in tap water is just adding to the chemicals on it !!
Disclaimer-I have spell/grammar checked this post, it may still contain mistakes that might cause offence.

User avatar
aceyone
Posts: 2751
Joined: Tue 23 Jun 2009, 12:25 pm
Location: Bromley Kent

Re: Is anybody happy with the Brexit white paper?

Post by aceyone »

CJS wrote:
psquiddy wrote:What is wrong with chlorinated chicken?

Don't Americans eat it all of the time?


No further questions your honour...

The prosecution rests it's case.


:clap:
Don't know about those jets ,they spoil a very nice place

User avatar
Southendnick
Posts: 2068
Joined: Sun 31 Aug 2008, 8:30 am
Location: Southend-on-Sea

Re: Is anybody happy with the Brexit white paper?

Post by Southendnick »

Spelling mistakes and grammatical error specialist

http://www.southendtimeline.com

User avatar
Tommy
UKAR Staff
Posts: 5612
Joined: Mon 14 Mar 2011, 11:39 pm

Re: Is anybody happy with the Brexit white paper?

Post by Tommy »

[tweet]http://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1223277148288487427[/tweet]


Georgeconna
Posts: 687
Joined: Wed 30 May 2012, 2:38 pm

Re: Is anybody happy with the Brexit white paper?

Post by Georgeconna »

Congrats UK!! You Finally done it thank christ for that!
Cheers

George

Zero shows for 2018 Giving in a Rest.

User avatar
Tommy
UKAR Staff
Posts: 5612
Joined: Mon 14 Mar 2011, 11:39 pm

Re: Is anybody happy with the Brexit white paper?

Post by Tommy »

Tragic. And they still can’t particularise what they think they won.

User avatar
LN Strike Eagle
UKAR Staff
Posts: 10562
Joined: Mon 21 Jul 2008, 3:29 pm

Re: Is anybody happy with the Brexit white paper?

Post by LN Strike Eagle »

Tommy wrote:Tragic. And they still can’t particularise what they think they won.

Indeed. Still, it wasn't about racism...

[tweet]https://twitter.com/DotLepkowska/status/1223253932903890946[/tweet]

...oh. Okay. Well, at least they knew what they voted for....

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1223304092107399173[/tweet]

...ah...

:wall: :wall: :wall:
"You really are an oafish philistine at times!"

Georgeconna
Posts: 687
Joined: Wed 30 May 2012, 2:38 pm

Re: Is anybody happy with the Brexit white paper?

Post by Georgeconna »

Do you really believe everything you see and read on the internet? Dorothy is a bit of a WUM i'd say :lol:

Meant to say bye bye Dano!!
Cheers

George

Zero shows for 2018 Giving in a Rest.

User avatar
Tommy
UKAR Staff
Posts: 5612
Joined: Mon 14 Mar 2011, 11:39 pm

Re: Is anybody happy with the Brexit white paper?

Post by Tommy »

Georgeconna wrote:Do you really believe everything you see and read on the internet?


Fair. We should stick to real life.

So that invoice for £250 million from the NHS should be landing, what, next Friday?

Elliott Marsh
Posts: 306
Joined: Fri 19 Aug 2016, 11:02 am

Re: Is anybody happy with the Brexit white paper?

Post by Elliott Marsh »

Some people round my way set off fireworks at 11pm. Imagine being that much of a crass sack of "Kris Kris Tofferson!".

Spectacular interviews on BBC from the Brexit party in central London.

"What does Brexit mean to you?"

WE GET OUT COUNTRY BACK.

"And how will your daily life change?"

... INDEPENDENCE.

Jesus wept.

https://twitter.com/MrsMigginsHere/status/1223366315383164928?s=07&fbclid=IwAR0lQYrV7g9gSDs_WENRarnosM7B4_FiQght3FQfxh0P6ETOe8wcatuuKew

"Get our lives back... We don't have any laws..."

User avatar
Spiny Norman
Posts: 3162
Joined: Sun 31 Aug 2008, 10:17 am
Contact:

Re: Is anybody happy with the Brexit white paper?

Post by Spiny Norman »

As has been pointed out many times, only an independent country could remove itself from an international organisation.

As we see repeatedly the bus marked 'truth' in Brexitland left years ago and the myths are still around in plentiful supply.

The real test is produing a prosperous and united nation after our departure with the EU. And Johnson is probably the least capable person you could have for this real test.

User avatar
aceyone
Posts: 2751
Joined: Tue 23 Jun 2009, 12:25 pm
Location: Bromley Kent

Re: Is anybody happy with the Brexit white paper?

Post by aceyone »

LN Strike Eagle wrote:
Tommy wrote:Tragic. And they still can’t particularise what they think they won.

Indeed. Still, it wasn't about racism...

[tweet]https://twitter.com/DotLepkowska/status/1223253932903890946[/tweet]

...oh. Okay. Well, at least they knew what they voted for....

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1223304092107399173[/tweet]

...ah...

:wall: :wall: :wall:


Sad to think that these are the kind of people who have shaped the future of this country :roll:
Last edited by aceyone on Sat 01 Feb 2020, 12:17 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Don't know about those jets ,they spoil a very nice place

User avatar
Southendnick
Posts: 2068
Joined: Sun 31 Aug 2008, 8:30 am
Location: Southend-on-Sea

Re: Is anybody happy with the Brexit white paper?

Post by Southendnick »

LN Strike Eagle wrote:Still, it wasn't about racism...

[tweet]https://twitter.com/DotLepkowska/status/1223253932903890946[/tweet]

...oh. Okay. Well, at least they knew what they voted for....




:wall: :wall: :wall:



and who knows who put that sign up, it might have been a leaver it could just as easily been a remainer wanting to sow seeds of hatred and put the leave in a light of all being racists.

Can anyone prove who put it up, no they can't, should it be taken with speculation yes, unless its proven who put it up don't believe everything you see.
Spelling mistakes and grammatical error specialist

http://www.southendtimeline.com

Finningley Boy
Posts: 3169
Joined: Sun 12 Oct 2008, 10:07 am

Re: Is anybody happy with the Brexit white paper?

Post by Finningley Boy »

One thing for sure, the remain camp, especially the over excitable bunch on UKAR, will continue to cut out examples of negative and frankly down right imbecile like behaviour, purporting to damn the whole Brexit exercise.

I understand a Liberal Democrat Peer in the House of Lords has likened Brexit to the rise of Nazi Germany! Now here's a task for all the remainers, go and find some genuinely irrefutable examples of how and why the British Government is pursuing a programme of racial persecution, rearmament, media shut down, political parties shut down (violently), euthanasia programmes for the feeble minded and where the first concentration camps (capable of holding thousands) are currently planned or under construction?

If it comes to pass, I'll be among the first to do anything possible to oppose it. Now for anyone to make such a comparison with NAZI Germany rather sweeps away the extent of sheer barbarity of the latter, that such a bloody stupid comparison entails, it really does confer upon the remain camp, the accolade of simply being plain thick!

FB (Brexit voter) :cuppa:
I have danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings!

User avatar
Tommy
UKAR Staff
Posts: 5612
Joined: Mon 14 Mar 2011, 11:39 pm

Re: Is anybody happy with the Brexit white paper?

Post by Tommy »

Southendnick wrote:
LN Strike Eagle wrote:Still, it wasn't about racism...

[tweet]https://twitter.com/DotLepkowska/status/1223253932903890946[/tweet]

...oh. Okay. Well, at least they knew what they voted for....




:wall: :wall: :wall:



and who knows who put that sign up, it might have been a leaver it could just as easily been a remainer wanting to sow seeds of hatred and put the leave in a light of all being racists.

Can anyone prove who put it up, no they can't, should it be taken with speculation yes, unless its proven who put it up don't believe everything you see.


I agree it’s just a thing on the Internet. I don’t see how that can’t be a fake, tbh.

But I had a really good laugh reading your post now calling for things to be “taken with speculation” (think you mean “a pinch of salt”) and “don’t believe everything you see”, yet you’ve spent the last four years digesting and regurgitating Brexit’s lies and disgusting scaremongering.

User avatar
Tommy
UKAR Staff
Posts: 5612
Joined: Mon 14 Mar 2011, 11:39 pm

Re: Is anybody happy with the Brexit white paper?

Post by Tommy »

Finningley Boy wrote:One thing for sure, the remain camp, especially the over excitable bunch on UKAR, will continue to cut out examples of negative and frankly down right imbecile like behaviour, purporting to damn the whole Brexit exercise.

I understand a Liberal Democrat Peer in the House of Lords has likened Brexit to the rise of Nazi Germany! Now here's a task for all the remainers, go and find some genuinely irrefutable examples of how and why the British Government is pursuing a programme of racial persecution, rearmament, media shut down, political parties shut down (violently), euthanasia programmes for the feeble minded and where the first concentration camps (capable of holding thousands) are currently planned or under construction?


Yes, indeed. Because Hitler *started* with the concentration camps, huh? Krystallnacht was just moments after the Nazis won power in 1932, eh?

I’m not saying I agree with the Lib Dem peer, but I agree that we're trundling off down that dark road.

Whatever the merits or not of Brexit, the inward-looking chest-beating jingoism and nationalist populism that formed the wave upon which Brexit surfed cannot be ignored.

But you’ll not be satisfied by the above so, idk, mate, what about:

Image

But there we are. We’ve always been at war with Eastasia. I don’t understand why Brexiteers are so up in arms about everything.

You lot won. Get on with it.

Tom (an idiot)

ExVulcanGC
Posts: 246
Joined: Sun 22 Feb 2009, 9:28 am

Re: Is anybody happy with the Brexit white paper?

Post by ExVulcanGC »

Sorry Tommy, I was going to avoid getting back into the debate but had to respond to your last post sign off, you are not an idiot, any more than the leave voters are, despite having been labelled as such, and much worse, by the more vehement remain supporters over the last three and a half years and has continued today and no doubt will in the future.

I don’t understand why Brexiteers are so up in arms about everything.


If any side can be asked why they are so up in arms about everything I think that is a question that is more relevant to the remain camp, even though we are technically out the leave side is now being likened to the Nazi’s, which is a bit of a stretch and continues the approach by remain to be insulting, and why do remain keep harping back to the past and claiming that leave want to return to those times, which they do not, it does not do their cause any good as has been seen over the last 6 months or so.

Even Tony Blair seems to have got the message:

https://sputniknews.com/uk/202001301078180957-tony-blair-says-remainers-must-accept-they-lost-the-argument-and-adopt-new-strategy---reports/

Back to lurking as it will be safer :sad:

Finningley Boy
Posts: 3169
Joined: Sun 12 Oct 2008, 10:07 am

Re: Is anybody happy with the Brexit white paper?

Post by Finningley Boy »

Tommy,

the two photos you use are poor comparisons, one shows Nigel Farage pointing at an image purporting to highlight uncontrolled immigration from third world countries via the European Union. The second, I imagine without really knowing, appears to show the deportation of so called 'undesirables' possibly German citizens, under likely SS supervision. The first shows people trying to emigrate from their country, by choice, to another, the second shows people being forced under armed guard, very much against their will, to God knows where. The first is a political stunt the second, people in all likelihood being herded toward slaughter, Genocide.

Now before you do it, don't dare start correcting my response to your stunt, like pointing out just how mistaken my reading of each is. I understand too bloody well t point you're trying to make, so don't even start with one of you're usual forensic style over analytical come backs.

There is absolutely no evidence that this government is pursuing anything of the like along to compare with Nazi Germany, at any stage of Hitler's ascent to power or any stage thereafter. Only politically engineered nonsense, such as your own. Find a photo which purports, at least, to show British Soldiers, Armed Police, some politically uber loyal armed unit (which I'm sure doesn't exist) herding people, for whatever reason, down a dark road, as you might say, under government orders.

I'd say the same thing to you as the venerable peer, get some actual evidence.

FB :cuppa:

PS Hitler was sworn in as Chancellor on 30th January 1933, the first concentration camp at Dachau, opened two months later. So I'll tell you what Tommy lets wait til March and see what happens eh! :roll:
I have danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings!

User avatar
Tommy
UKAR Staff
Posts: 5612
Joined: Mon 14 Mar 2011, 11:39 pm

Re: Is anybody happy with the Brexit white paper?

Post by Tommy »

Finningley Boy wrote:
Now before you do it, don't dare start correcting my response to your stunt, like pointing out just how mistaken my reading of each is. I understand too bloody well t point you're trying to make, so don't even start with one of you're usual forensic style over analytical come backs.


Why are you so angry, mate? Haven’t you got what you wanted?

User avatar
boff180
UKAR Staff
Posts: 9024
Joined: Sun 31 Aug 2008, 2:28 pm
Location: Solihull
Contact:

Re: Is anybody happy with the Brexit white paper?

Post by boff180 »

The EU will back Spain over its territorial claims to Gibraltar in the next phase of Brexit negotiations by giving Madrid the power to exclude the British overseas territory from any trade deal struck with Brussels.
The Observer has learned that the Spanish government has insisted on reference to the Rock in the EU’s opening negotiating position, which will be published in draft form on Monday.
Boris Johnson will be presented with the choice of reaching agreement with the Spaniards about Gibraltar’s future or exposing its citizens to economic peril by pushing it outside any EU-UK trade deal.


https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brexit/b ... spartandhp

Post Reply