Tommy wrote: ↑
Mon 25 May 2020, 6:20 pm
I gave up with them when they did the 2010 SDSR, that was too much for me, and I decided that I would need to be seriously impressed to vote for them again, but how many times do they have to fail like this before their devoted supporters think “maybe these guys aren’t very good?”.
I can't believe that all there is to your analysis, you do remember the financial crisis at the time? You do recall the frenzied anger at any attempt to approach any other government department, apart from the Home Office) to find savings. You do recall the long forecast expectations, beforehand, about pending heavy defence cuts prior to the election? You may also recall the pre-SDSR (regardless of which party was elected to form a government) public fighting between the services different backers, mostly calling for the RAF to be disbanded.
Did it worry you quite the same in 1998, when with a healthy economy, courtesy of the previous government, the new one (New Labour) following their SDR, decided to disband two Tornado Squadrons 17 and 29. Then after Blair jumped onto George Bushes coat tails and managed to get involved in an unjustifiable invasion chasing non-existent WMD? In the midst of these festering conflicts in the middle east, Blair's government cut and cut the Defence Budget, Army cut from 125,000 to scarcely 100,000, Sea Harrier upgrade cancelled and aircraft withdrawn from service. Entire Jaguar fleet withdrawn and Tornado F3 Force reduced from six squadrons in 1997 to one in 2009, one RAF Harrier squadron disbanded to form one of the only two Typhoon squadrons to form over a period of four years. It took four years to form two operational Typhoon squadrons. We went, with absolutely no financial pressure as a nation to do so from, an RAF FJ force of 20 Squadrons plus four OCUs and the Navy with two Sea Harrier Sqns and the HQ Training Sqn to 13 Squadrons and 3 OCUs through the 13 years of Labour.
It proved one thing, Conservatives cut defence spending because they have to, Labour cut defence spending because they want to. And each time a Labour Government gets voted out, the country has always been heading for bankruptcy. Tories voted out in 1964, effectively following Profumo Scandal, out in 1974 due to failure to control union excess, out in 1997 over infighting over Europe and general public malaise after spending 18 unbroken years with a large majority.
Tommy, no doubt you'll find a short few words to lift out of that lot and quote separately presenting an entirely different and opposite point.