COVID-19: Your Thoughts and it's effects on you.

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Anybody feel that the govenment is not doing enough to support people who are now laid off/out of work? I feel they should be guranteeing them some sort of package that would give them atleast 50% of their previous wages? I myself fear that I will be asked to take unpaid leave, or similar by the end of next week. I have little fear of getting the virus but have 100% fear of having no money.
On another subject of the vunerable group who should almost isolate. I have asthma and the advice now is to those with chronic and uncontrolled asthma only should self isolate. Thankfully mine is fully controlled , and I have had no texts from my doctors to the contuary. I personally think it is vital as many of us as possible should be earning money and when the govenment give companies money the first priority should be paying staff or we will have millions out of work in a few weeks.

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farnboroughrob wrote:Am I the only one having to lay down the law to elederly parents? They just don't seem to get the whole idea. I said I will visit them, on saturday and then that will be it until this ends. The only exception is if they want shopping and I will then leave that on the door step. They are both 80 and my mum is in poor health. They don't get that they can't just pop out for lunch, or go shopping together. I am in a high risk group9Asthma) but am carrying on because I have to go to work until if/when I get the virus. That work involves going to customer sites so I am at higher risk. :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall:


Yes, spot on - My dad is mid 80s with diabetes, he has the internet to order shopping and two sons who can help inc delivering shopping. But he still ignores the official advice, popping out to the shops (Morrisons) etc, exposing himself to risk - what can you do?

PS and then Sainsbury's offers an exclusive shopping hour for the over 70's - the exact group who have been advised to stay inside :dizzy: :dizzy:
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The advice isn't to lock yourself away and never come out again, it is to avoid unnecessary exposure. Heading to Tescos or Morrisons and to work is permitted, if it is wholly unpractical to do otherwise.

The advice is to avoid social unnecessary social contact, functions and so forth. But it can't last forever, if we just stop acting like half wits with an acute Toilet Paper fetish we'll be fine. We may be very bored but if current developments in some countries which imposed restrictive measures are anything to go by, its working already.

Our problem seems to be a lack of ability to simply do as we are told these days, we will of course blame the Government now and in time to come for any comparative delay in combating COVID 19. When for sure, the responsibility will lay with ourselves., or some of us.

Majid Nawaz said on LBC at the weekend that half the problems, or more, will generate from the people's reaction.

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But when people have relatives, friends and the internet for all their supermarket needs, how is going to the supermarket neccesary? There were photos today in the media of the Sainsbury's experiment showing rows and rows of elderly queing at the checkouts.

It's a sad fact that, if any of these guys catch the virus, not only are they in harms way (with a much higher mortality rate ) but the burden on the NHS is much higher than for younger generations. (and look for the 2 meter separation?)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... nd-crowded
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Hallelujah Trump has found a cure. :whistle:

Trump said that hydroxychloroquine - an old and inexpensive drug used to treat malaria - would be made available almost immediately to treat coronavirus.

Lab studies have suggested that the drug may keep Covid-19 from invading human cells.

“It’s been around for a long time, so we know if things don’t go as planned, it’s not going to kill anybody,” Mr Trump said.

From the BBC web site.

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Pen Pusher wrote:Hallelujah Trump has found a cure. :whistle:

Trump said that hydroxychloroquine - an old and inexpensive drug used to treat malaria - would be made available almost immediately to treat coronavirus.

Lab studies have suggested that the drug may keep Covid-19 from invading human cells.

“It’s been around for a long time, so we know if things don’t go as planned, it’s not going to kill anybody,” Mr Trump said.

From the BBC web site.

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Been hearing that the Japanese have been having a bit of success using a pre existing Flu Drug.

Early days yet though.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... says-china

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farnboroughrob wrote:On another subject of the vunerable group who should almost isolate. I have asthma and the advice now is to those with chronic and uncontrolled asthma only should self isolate. Thankfully mine is fully controlled , and I have had no texts from my doctors to the contuary. I personally think it is vital as many of us as possible should be earning money and when the govenment give companies money the first priority should be paying staff or we will have millions out of work in a few weeks.


We've been advised that everyone deemed vulnerable due to their respective medical conditions will be contacted by a medical professional with further advice in due course.

Don't think this advice is coming from our regular doctor though, in our case we're told we will hear directly from Rheumatology, so if you have to consult or attend a specialist on a regular basis, it might be them? If not, certainly worth checking.

As an aside, anyone else feeling guilty now if you see a friend / neighbour at the bus stop, you know you have to drive past them, can't offer them a lift? :dunno:

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hydroxychloroquine sounds a bit sketchy malarial parasites are a lot bigger than viruses; I think it works by altering the red blood cell membrane.

Viruses work by inserting themselves into the nucleus of host cells, they don't have DNA. Red blood cells don't (normally) have a nucleus; although they do in birds

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But when people have relatives, friends and the internet for all their supermarket needs, how is going to the supermarket neccesary?


I went on the Waitrose site yesterday and got on at number 22000ish.

So I walked to the local supermarket and got some of the little they had.
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Heading to Tescos or Morrisons and to work is permitted, if it is wholly unpractical to do otherwise.


It seems like people can work from home but are going to stand in a queue in the supermarket instead.
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Zoom wrote:hydroxychloroquine sounds a bit sketchy malarial parasites are a lot bigger than viruses; I think it works by altering the red blood cell membrane.

Viruses work by inserting themselves into the nucleus of host cells, they don't have DNA. Red blood cells don't (normally) have a nucleus; although they do in birds


So the professor guy on TV last night and they showed the printout of the DNA for Corvid 19 was wrong and it's not actually a virus as you obviously know better.
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So to the good news wifey is getting better from her chest infection, and after a quick chat with the doctor what we should be doing to keep safe, keep doing as we are wife to stay indoors and myself to limit going out to necessary trips. It was also going to be his last visit for a while, and it's a quick telephone call for the foreseeable every fortnight just to check in.
One thing that did surprise me was to take plenty of hot drinks. Apparently bugs don't like hot drinks and get flushed into you stomach and then killed in you stomach acid. So for those that like a tipple get yourself plenty of hot toddy's down you.
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Mooshie1956 wrote:
Zoom wrote:hydroxychloroquine sounds a bit sketchy malarial parasites are a lot bigger than viruses; I think it works by altering the red blood cell membrane.

Viruses work by inserting themselves into the nucleus of host cells, they don't have DNA. Red blood cells don't (normally) have a nucleus; although they do in birds


So the professor guy on TV last night and they showed the printout of the DNA for Corvid 19 was wrong and it's not actually a virus as you obviously know better.


OK sorry I'm going back to my O level biology days. viruses can have DNA RNA or both; but they still all exist by invading the cells of the host organism; they cannot replicate by themselves like bacteria

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To bring some humour to a really rubbish subject, whats the best conspiracy theory you've read? :grin:

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Airshowhammer wrote:To bring some humour to a really rubbish subject, whats the best conspiracy theory you've read? :grin:


My mum was told by someone she knows that the virus escaped (or was released :ninja: ) from a scientific test lab in Wuhan province.

To be fair, it's the only conspiracy theory I've heard, so it definitely qualifies as my best one!
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Twitter is a complete toxin that needs closing.

Stuff i've read on there:

'Bill Gates created it so he can provide a vaccine that has us all chipped'.

'Its to keep us indoors for the alien invasion incoming'.

The list goes on...

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Funnily enough, now a few of us might be looking at self isolation - probably are going to be on the web a fair bit more, streaming Netflix or whatever. Good thing the Chinese are there for the upcoming 5G. :grin:

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Airshowhammer wrote:To bring some humour to a really rubbish subject, whats the best conspiracy theory you've read? :grin:


That RAF Aircrew are going to be re-assigned! Well it is a vital-role, or should that be a vital-roll? :butt:

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Some people in the UK are donning hazard suits and respirators.

https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/somerset-news/tesco-extra-coronavirus-covid-somerset-3947141

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He must be prepping for Corvid 20 with a 50% kill rate.

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I've just noticed that he's gone for the full NBCD look but with the optional fingerless gloves :facepalm:

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Dont laugh I have a Gas Mask I got years ago, Now it will come on handy!!
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Georgeconna wrote:Dont laugh I have a Gas Mask I got years ago, Now it will come on handy!!

If the virus doesn’t get you the asbestos in the mask will - hey ho.
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Jeremy Corbyn's brother claims the outbreak is no accident.

https://www.davidicke.com/article/56610 ... acy-theory

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From BBC Web Site
Cafes, pubs and restaurants must close from Friday night, except for take-away food, to tackle coronavirus, UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson has said.

All the UK's nightclubs, theatres, cinemas, gyms and leisure centres have also been asked to close "as soon as they reasonably can".

Mr Johnson said the situation will be reviewed each month.

The chancellor has said the government will pay 80% of wages for employees who are not working, up to £2,500 a month.


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The new financial package just announced is huge, national debt is going to go through the roof but what choice do we have.
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