FGR2 wrote: ↑
Thu 24 Sep 2020, 4:49 pm
Tommy wrote: ↑
Thu 24 Sep 2020, 4:39 pm
Absolutely disastrous. We could have a government as competent as New Zealand, but if this is how the public treats the virus, we’re all screwed for a long time.
Hopefully the now released test and trace app will help things, and the Government restrictions coming in, because as a nation we *must* do better than this.
That is concerning however I wonder how many would use the defence in the first instance, that Cummings drove hundreds of miles in his car with his wife who had symptoms. It’s not right but I think the Government lost a lot of goodwill there. Everyone was very compliant at the beginning.
The other thing I see is if some random person
phones you and tells you to isolate for two weeks, then would you? Especially if it meant losing two weeks wages for what could be no reason at all. If you could get a test to find out then I am sure more people would take notice.
They're only 'some random person' if you're an idiot though, surely? If you're not, and you actually want to help stop the spread of this thing before it (possibly/probably) gets out of hand again, then you'll listen to the NHS test and trace operative and self isolate.
The point of the self isolating thing is that you may not show positive on a test straight away anyway, isn't it? That's why, all along, you have had to self isolate for 14 days if someone in your house gets it, but if their symptoms allow it (ie they feel better), they only have to do so for ten days.
You could be exposed on day 1 but not have symptoms until day 13 and therefore not get a positive result if that was the case, or could you (in theory) test everyone who thought they had been exposed on day one out of 14, and if they didn't have it then they weren't at risk? I'm not 100% sure still - and I should be!
Our advice at school is that, should anyone in our 'bubble' (for me that's my class) have a positive test, the rest of us would have to self isolate for 14 days, but there's no advice to go and get a test if that's the case, unless we develop symptoms ourselves. That's also why the 'contact of a contact' thing means that if I had to self isolate because a child in my class tested positive, my partner and son wouldn't have to, unless I got symptoms.
Finally - because I can see that I am waffling on now - the 14 days is meant to be from when you were exposed, isn't it? So I went to a cafe on Saturday just gone - if someone else in there developed symptoms on Monday (so within 2 days of me being exposed to them) and had a test on Tuesday with a positive result back on Wednesday and the track and trace people phoned me on Thursday (ie 5 days after I had been exposed to them) then my self isolation would only have to be 9 days from that point - is that right?
(I am not calling you an idiot FGR2 by the way, because I am sure you'd take their advice.)