Thanks Iain.iainpeden wrote: ↑Wed 23 Sep 2020, 10:53 amKenKen Shabby wrote: ↑Tue 22 Sep 2020, 9:00 pmThe link below takes you to a graph buried on the BBC website and shows a different scenario based on how things are panning out in France and Spain, in addition to the one Whitty tried to scare the nation with yesterday.
I don’t know if it’s been given much publicity; please tell me if it has and I’ll shut up. But if it hasn’t, why not?
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpspr ... sep-nc.png
A very interesting graph. The cynical side of me says that the "least worst scenario" is not being shown so that the PM can say "look this is what actually happened because I did the right thing." Not sure I have a non-cynical view at the moment.
As for the discussion on population/birth control, I thought I'd add my two-pennath. I'd suggest that most people would agree that the Earth has reached, or is close to reaching, its maximum human population, apart from anything else unless the increasing meat requirement is reduced it will mean that the population will not be able to be fed if current diet patterns continue. There's also the huge and increasing, and possibly irreversible, damage to the planet's climate and all the other species which live here. A while ago - and before covid - I suggested the only way this planet would survive would be for a virus to hit, heavily, the human race - and had a few people agreeing. (bit of a David Icke moment there!)
I was listening to Genesis' Foxtrot at the gym this morning and this line jumped out:
"This is the end of man's long union with Earth" - the whole song could have been written with the current crisis in mind.
As ever, listen to Radio 4s "More or Less" which puts a lot of meat on the message that that graph shows.
On the subject of world population, for any virus to have a serious impact, the death rate would have to be very high. COVID-19 (fortunately) won’t even scratch the surface. To give some indication of what would be required, for the UK alone the ONS website shows that in 2018 births totalled 731K compared with 616K deaths. I’d imagine that sort of growth is reflected across the globe - I’m not aware of any countries with declining populations. So, given that COVID preys mostly on the old and those already sick, it needs to up its death rate and branch out into killing the young and fit if it’s to start driving the world’s population down.
Mr Icke will need his shape-shifting reptilians to turn nasty to achieve that, I think!
(I do recall reading once that, in the last century, the deaths in the First and Second World Wars, and from the 1919-20s Spanish Flu (50 million), barely caused a blip in the upward trend of world population numbers.)