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aceyone wrote:Is going to the local Council dump really necessary ?Image


Is that Waldo Road, Bromley?

It’s easily explained. People are working from home. Well, not not all working. So let’s do that clear-out we’ve been meaning to do for ages. And then take it up the dump. And forget why they’re working from home in the first place. We can have a day down the coast tomorrow.
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My daily "physio" walk has taken to passing some of the regulars I see out and about, from the opposite side of the road. Still able to have a cheery hello and ask how they are doing. Yesterday I had to abandon plans for the route I was going to walk, as there were just to many folk out, but I have several different walks I use for variety, and used one of those instead. Pleased to say everyone I've encountered has been keeping a safe distance from others.
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Ken Shabby wrote:
aceyone wrote:Is going to the local Council dump really necessary ?Image


Is that Waldo Road, Bromley?

It’s easily explained. People are working from home. Well, not not all working. So let’s do that clear-out we’ve been meaning to do for ages. And then take it up the dump. And forget why they’re working from home in the first place. We can have a day down the coast tomorrow.


Indeed it is Waldo Road,as I live backing onto the road I see a lot of what goes on there,my point was why ,as always happens ( especially this time of year ) do people visit on a Monday or Tuesday? it's always quieter midweek onwards !
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toom317 wrote: Pleased to say everyone I've encountered has been keeping a safe distance from others.


Same here - when someone is walking toward us, either they, or us cross the road before we even come within 50 metres of each other, and we all know why we're doing it.

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aceyone wrote:
Ken Shabby wrote:
aceyone wrote:Is going to the local Council dump really necessary ?Image


Is that Waldo Road, Bromley?

It’s easily explained. People are working from home. Well, not not all working. So let’s do that clear-out we’ve been meaning to do for ages. And then take it up the dump. And forget why they’re working from home in the first place. We can have a day down the coast tomorrow.


Indeed it is Waldo Road,as I live backing onto the road I see a lot of what goes on there,my point was why ,as always happens ( especially this time of year ) do people visit on a Monday or Tuesday? it's always quieter midweek onwards !


Our recycling centres drastically changed their hours within the last few months - used to be open throughout the day every day, now you're lucky if they are open for a whole day at all, some days it's just a couple of hours in the morning, and this was before Covid 19.

Edited to rant - Thank You Sky News.

Please bear in mind that there are other Countries within the UK not just England.

To elaborate, Nicola Sturgeon has just also made an announcement and was taking questions from the audience that I, as I live in Scotland would deem to be important. No, they (Sky News) cut back to outside Downing Street to discuss what PMBJ has just said. :mad: :mad:

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So my wife works for a retailer who have announced they are closed. Except they're not - the stores are shut unless you have a pre-booked "click and collect" slot from online orders.

Now, following the PM's announcement where does she stand? Technically they're closed, but also not closed? Hmm.

As for me? I was made redundant last week so it's all going well here...

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vandal wrote:
toom317 wrote: Pleased to say everyone I've encountered has been keeping a safe distance from others.


Same here - when someone is walking toward us, either they, or us cross the road before we even come within 50 metres of each other, and we all know why we're doing it.

Ditto and you can still acknowledge people with a smile and a friendly hand gesture.
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If ever you needed proof that the BBC is as bad as anything in the tabloids...this is it. Hyperbolic, sensationalist scaremongering. It reads like a piece of GCSE persuasive writing.

Coronavirus: When will the outbreak end and life get back to normal? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51963486
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JJC wrote:If ever you needed proof that the BBC is as bad as anything in the tabloids...this is it. Hyperbolic, sensationalist scaremongering. It reads like a piece of GCSE persuasive writing.

Coronavirus: When will the outbreak end and life get back to normal? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51963486


It just happens to be accurate.
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iainpeden wrote:
JJC wrote:If ever you needed proof that the BBC is as bad as anything in the tabloids...this is it. Hyperbolic, sensationalist scaremongering. It reads like a piece of GCSE persuasive writing.

Coronavirus: When will the outbreak end and life get back to normal? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51963486


It just happens to be accurate.


Hence why new cases are reported as double digits in China? And South Korea’s rate of infection now dropping off too.

This is undoubtedly an awful illness with awful repercussions globally. But I doubt this is the end of civilisation as we know it.
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aceyone wrote:
Ken Shabby wrote:
aceyone wrote:Is going to the local Council dump really necessary ?Image


Is that Waldo Road, Bromley?

It’s easily explained. People are working from home. Well, not not all working. So let’s do that clear-out we’ve been meaning to do for ages. And then take it up the dump. And forget why they’re working from home in the first place. We can have a day down the coast tomorrow.


Indeed it is Waldo Road,as I live backing onto the road I see a lot of what goes on there,my point was why ,as always happens ( especially this time of year ) do people visit on a Monday or Tuesday? it's always quieter midweek onwards !


Thanks for the tip (no pun intended). If I’m having a clear-out on a Sunday it normally takes three times as long as I’ve anticipated, finishing too late to take it round to Waldo Road. I’m often working from home on Monday - quite often at the moment - so I’ll pop round then to get rid of all the old **** as soon as I can. I’ll hold on to it for a few days more now I know the queues can be shorter mid-week.

Well, that’s me accounted for - I don’t know about all the other cars.

I’m surprised the site’s not already shut to the public, in all honesty, but assume it will be from tomorrow - unless getting shot of that old MFI wardrobe is classed as an “essential” reason for leaving the house.
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I'm just putting all my junk into the shed at the moment. I don't really want a trip down to the tip at this time, I still have plenty of room and the old freezer has just been pulled out of the shed and we'll use it to blanch some veg for later use.
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Anyone here registered with Gov.UK for tax etc?

Phone pinged just now with a text

GOV.UK CORONOVIRUS ALERT

New rules in force now: you must stay at home.
More info & exemptions at gov.uk/coronavirus
Stay at home
Protect the NHS
Save lives.

Although obvious, there are links within and I've received texts before from the Gov but this one came through separately.

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Hence why new cases are reported as double digits in China? And South Korea’s rate of infection now dropping off too.

This is undoubtedly an awful illness with awful repercussions globally. But I doubt this is the end of civilisation as we know it.


Civilisation as we know it - hmmm. I suspect that an many things which we, as a first world democracy, will find change as this pandemic works through. Admittedly, and hopefully, many of those changes will be seen as first world problems.

First, anybody who seriously thinks this is going to go away after 3 or 4 months is looking at the problem through rose coloured specs. "Herd immunity" is going to take along time to develop and many people will die along the way. Once a vaccine is developed it will take a long time to be administered and to take effect. How can it ever be given world wide - and, first world problem, how safe would you feel going to, for example, Tanzania knowing that the virus was still about there, and not knowing if you had developed immunity.

The economy. Hopefully will recover but many work practices will change. Maybe on-line shopping will become even more the norm - or, given how supermarkets seem to have, temporarily, run short of stock but corner shops and bakers, butchers etc have had stocks will be return to specialist shops rather than the catch all supermarkets. Also, it's going to take a long time to pay for all the actions taken.

Maybe the Tories will realise the value of the BBC and not continue their apparent enmity to the BEEB.

Maybe Boris will be seen as a PM for the time.

Personally I think the levels of guidance and information have been good. Where criticism is coming that things are not clear, for example the numbskulls who had been told to keep their distance and not travel - and end up at Skegness, Brighton or half way up Snowden. People need to listen and use their common sense and get away from the "it doesn't apply to me" mindset. It is not a simple black and white problem I also think the strategy has been logical - whether it's right or not only time will tell.

Anyway - very happy to continue a balanced and polite discussion - after all not much else to do!
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Anybody out there feeling a bit abandoned by their employer? I work from home all the time. Half the time traditional working from home and half out visiting customers, we have another 5 people just visiting customers. Asked my boss if we carry on and am told yes. Got a engineer driving from Worksop to Liverpool to fix a printer, anybody else think that is wrong. We all said we are happy to shut down on 80% pay but told that they want us to do as much work as possible.

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I feel for you, the rules yesterday give a huge amount of lee way for employers and it's all about context,

re your example of the printer, it could be vital for a gov emergency project and it could be for some greedy firm who wont close, I think one of the big issues is concerning support services. Fixing a dinks machine in a nurses rest area is vital IMHO, in another context, pretty meaningless. Boris has given the responsibility of workers to make their own decisions and these are many of the people who could not be trusted to stay away from group gatherings (hence the new rules)

this is a time when you find out (or have it confirmed) whether you are working for a responsible employer or not.

PS just received an email from Amazon that my new plastic kitchen bin is being delivered later today? vital? dont think so.
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farnboroughrob wrote:Anybody out there feeling a bit abandoned by their employer? I work from home all the time. Half the time traditional working from home and half out visiting customers, we have another 5 people just visiting customers. Asked my boss if we carry on and am told yes. Got a engineer driving from Worksop to Liverpool to fix a printer, anybody else think that is wrong. We all said we are happy to shut down on 80% pay but told that they want us to do as much work as possible.


I too worked from home before the virus. I provide software support to banks, hospitals, retailers, local government, schools, etc.

We have hardware engineers still out on the roads replacing disks and systems today and will need to forever. I could shut down the biggest hospital in Ireland from my home, or I can keep it running. Shops can’t order stock, banks can’t keep track of money, your employer can’t pay you, trains can’t run, aircraft can’t fly, TV broadcasts and the internet and just about everything we rely on can’t work if computers stop. When was the last time you saw paper records in a hospital ?

I’ve seen some pretty big companies come grinding to a halt because of what many might consider to be a minor problem.

Many of the biggest rely on vast data centres where they have little control over what goes on. The guy in the Indian call centre doesn’t know if a failed disk or a failed printer is critical. It’s his job to get it fixed and look at a bank of green lights. The problem is , some of these systems are so complicated nobody knows what’s critical until it fails and the company stops, or the hospital can’t admit or track patients or access results of blood tests.
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pbeardmore wrote:
PS just received an email from Amazon that my new plastic kitchen bin is being delivered later today? vital? dont think so.


Although your shiny new bin may not be deemed vital, there is the possibility that your delivery driver may well have been in the area delivering a new mobile phone or whatever anyway.

Or those elusive toilet rolls and hand sanitisers we hear talk of. :grin:

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Ericbee123 I am one of those hardware engineers half the time but am unsure , like millions of others, if we should be operating as normal or just going to essential calls. I have a local data center that oftern requires disks swapping, but have done a load reciently so hopefully will be ok. One of our big customers is a gym, many others are schools, and a very large in flight catering company so they are all closed, or will be soon. We need clarity from govenment and employers today.

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Trouble is, we have created an economy and infrastructure that is hugely complex with many many interwoven layers of service (not helped by the trend for so many things to be sub or sub sub contracted) and supply. Made more complex by the reliance on IT.

"For want of a nail"?

The idea that you can take certain parts of the infrastructure and shut them down without having a direct or indirect impact on the other? Clearly, there are huge issues here
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Another knock on effect,my car was due it's MOT ,unfortunately my service centre ( Bristol Street Motors ) has shut it's doors,so scratched around for a alternative and the earliest I could get was April 4th,no big deal to be without a car for a couple of weeks but does make life awkward !
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I did see a window cleaner out working this morning, not vital work, but if he's self employed it will be his only source of income, what does he do.
Away from this chatting with the wife yesterday and we got rund to George Osborne (remember him) and his austerity measures, although we didn't like it, I think now that it was very prudent of him as we now need all that money he squirreled away. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Still don't like him though. I also wonder what mess we would be in if JC had won the election.
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My motorbike is due for an MOT next month.

Can I still take my car for an MOT?
Garages are allowed to remain open under the new restrictions.

MOTs for lorries, buses and trailers have already been suspended for up to three months. The government says these vehicles must be maintained and kept roadworthy.

MOTs for cars, motorcycles and light vans are under review.

Driving tests in England, Scotland and Wales have been suspended for up to three months from 21 March 2020, except for critical workers. All practical driving tests are suspended in Northern Ireland until 22 June 2020.

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