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Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ntist.html
Professor Gabriel Scally, a public health expert at Bristol University, today slammed the proposals, warning there was 'no point' in having a very merry Christmas only to 'then bury friends and relations in January and February'.
He was obviously very keen to write the Fail’s headline for them. So how long does he want the lockdown to go on?
Well there has only been one logical way of doing this from the start.
Lock down HARD and stay Locked down HARD until you get ZERO cases - anything else is Bolleax.
Then lock your borders!
Works well for us in New Zealand.
The best time to have started this was March - the 2nd best is Tomorrow.
The interesting question, however, will be answered post NZ lockdown, when the country finds out whether the rest of the world is irrelevant to New Zealand or New Zealand has become irrelevant to the rest of the world. Or possibly both.
Well one of the things that has become apparent John has been our economy is much less depended on the outside world than we thought. NZ is doing very nicely than you - the economy is buzzing. People are not dying by the 100 - and we are enjoying being able to sensible mix (while realising we might have to quickly bunker down again is there are new cases) it really is not that hard!
And reading the opinion of some of the crazies on this thread I hope we do we keep our border closed for a long long time - well after Covid - just to keep some of the posters in this thread from coming!
For those those who are a bit hard of thinking - Australia has also managed to get rid of Covid- approx half the population of the UK and also you might be interested to note an island!
and also like New Zealand is still trading with the world.
No it is not too difficult in the UK - just need to lockdown hard enough and long enough to get rid of Covid - it just needs some backbone and people to get behind the plan.
Andy - there’s 80 million people in the UK compared with 4.5 million in NZ. More people live within a 10 mile radius of where I live than do in the whole of NZ. A total ‘hard’ lockdown here would be impractical, the economy would be destroyed in a few months. We have more key workers for COVID than your whole population. Do we lock them up too? Don’t go on about backbone. No one here is crazy; we’re just dealing with this the best we can, balancing fighting the virus whilst allowing life to go on with some sense of normality. Our pubs, restaurants, most shops, all hospitality, most workplaces were shut for months, many still are and will never re-open. All it did was suppress the virus, it soon came back when the restrictions were lifted - that’s what a virus does. What do you want us to do - have full lockdown for a year?
Countries with high populations densities are tending to be the ones suffering the worse deaths per head of population from COVID, as they always tend to be from viruses. And Australia’s population is 25 million, well short of half the UK’s! And it’s a hell of a lot bigger.
I just want all this to be over so I can start eating your lamb. Best in the world but can’t get it over here for love nor money at the moment. So not sure you’re still trading as normal.
And you will need to keep your borders closed for a long, long time if you want to stop the virus getting in, even after vaccines. Take care, my friend, enjoy your summer, the weather’s bloody miserable here!