RAF BAE146 to SWAM & Duxford

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RAF BAE146 to SWAM & Duxford

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A pair of transport aircraft used by the RAF since 1986 are to be preserved at aviation museums for future generations to enjoy. The two BAe146 Mk2 aircraft will become the latest exhibits at the British Airliner Collection at Duxford, Cambridgeshire, and the South Wales Aviation Museum at St Athan in South Glamorgan.
https://www.raf.mod.uk/news/articles/ex ... on-museum/

ZE701 will arrive into Duxford on the 24th January
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8674planes wrote:
Sat 22 Jan 2022, 10:24 am
ZE701 will arrive into Duxford on the 24th January
When the museum is closed to the public. :angry:
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Great news!

It might be on the same date as the Duxford one, but if anyone gets news of when the Saint Athan one will be flying, I might swing over to catch it.

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Duxford is sending the Herald out on loan to another museum on long term loan to make room for the 146. Not announced where yet but will be in next week or so.

The Herald has been moved to the end of the apron to be disassembled for moving.

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jasonT1981 wrote:
Sat 22 Jan 2022, 2:15 pm
Duxford is sending the Herald out on loan to another museum on long term loan to make room for the 146. Not announced where yet but will be in next week or so.

The Herald has been moved to the end of the apron to be disassembled for moving.
I wonder if the Herald will be going to St Athan, they seem to be snapping up everything at the moment? As long as it is saved from the scrappers is all that matters.

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Pen Pusher wrote:
Sat 22 Jan 2022, 10:26 am
8674planes wrote:
Sat 22 Jan 2022, 10:24 am
ZE701 will arrive into Duxford on the 24th January
When the museum is closed to the public. :angry:
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jasonT1981 wrote:
Sat 22 Jan 2022, 2:15 pm
Duxford is sending the Herald out on loan to another museum on long term loan to make room.
Please remember it’s the Duxford Aviation Society which owns and maintains the airliners not IWM.
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In fairness to DAS the Herald was offered to a number of museums last autumn.
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I’ve seen a comment that the Herald is apparently going on loan to Sunderland. No idea of the veracity of it so take it with a pinch of salt.

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It is reported elsewhere that DAS should be announcing details of the Herald's new home later this week - I can place on record (despite some speculation) that it is not coming to Newark.
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How many Heralds are left, and are any preserved indoors?
The task of conserving an airframe that big seems to me to be a huge one.

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No 146 for Woodford, which is surprising really.

More surprising that DAS were happy to take one at the detriment of losing another British type. Strange decision personally, but I guess that's how museums work!

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cg_341 wrote:
Mon 24 Jan 2022, 9:44 am
No 146 for Woodford, which is surprising really.

More surprising that DAS were happy to take one at the detriment of losing another British type. Strange decision personally, but I guess that's how museums work!
It could only be roaded into Woodford. I'm more surprised one hasn't gone to Cosford.

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cg_341 wrote:
Mon 24 Jan 2022, 9:44 am
No 146 for Woodford, which is surprising really.

More surprising that DAS were happy to take one at the detriment of losing another British type. Strange decision personally, but I guess that's how museums work!
I'm probably missing something like place of manufacture but surely "146" is a marker for the de Havilland design bureau, a few numbers down the road from the DH121 Trident, not Avro, in which even the Lancaster was the Avro 683?

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The 146 is a Hatfield designed and built aircraft. The two 32Sqn CCMk.2 aircraft E1021 and E1029, ZE700 and ZE701 were both built at Hatfield. Woodford did some work on them after Hatfield closed in the early 1990s.

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I'm not sure if the museum allocation includes the two C.3 aircraft ZE707 and ZE708, E2188 and E2211, both of which were built at Woodford.

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The link in the first post on this thread says the two C.3s have been sold to a civilian operator.

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Orion wrote:
Mon 24 Jan 2022, 9:38 am
How many Heralds are left, and are any preserved indoors?
The task of conserving an airframe that big seems to me to be a huge one.
See http://www.oldprops.ukhome.net/Herald%20Photographs.htm for a full list, all-be-it rather dated.

There are three other intact Heralds in UK museums, at the Museum of Berkshire Aviation, City of Norwich Aviation Museum and Yorkshire Air Museum. All three are kept outdoors. Four intact airframes in museums out of a total production run of just 50 aircraft seems a pretty good return to me.

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The Herald at YAM is a nose section only, I believe the rest of the aircraft was scrapped due to corrosion.

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Ok, thanks, I wasn't aware of the YAM aircraft's fate. Reinforces Orion's comment about the big task of preserving these airframes.

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For the sake of completeness it's perhaps best not to forget the UKHAT 'target airframe' at Gatwick! :innocent:

Also there are some good photos in this thread that show the dismantling progress on the Herald at Duxford:

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There’s also a forward fuselage preserved at Morayvia

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ZE701 is on the ground at Duxford.
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NAM Updater wrote:
Mon 24 Jan 2022, 11:34 am
For the sake of completeness it's perhaps best not to forget the UKHAT 'target airframe' at Gatwick! :innocent:
And what's left, if anything, of the airframe at Guernsey.

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PlanesTV live streamed the Duxford arrival:


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