Psst........Orion wrote:...and the other is the suitable location as most, if not all of them, already have a Vulcan.
Saint Athan !!
Psst........Orion wrote:...and the other is the suitable location as most, if not all of them, already have a Vulcan.
All well & good ( if you ignore the various failures on their part & the misdeeds of certain aircrew ) until she stopped flying & became just another lawn ornament, at which time they should have streamlined a heck of a lot more than what they did.106500 wrote:I really don’t understand what folk have against organisations who pay their staff to do a job. I read time and again in the media outraged protests against set ups such as the National Trust and RSPCA because they pay their CEOs, CFOs etc a significant salary. I don’t think that 558 would have ever achieved the enormous success and fame it did without having properly rewarded administrators and engineers with the right talent and skillset. The old adage “You get what you pay for” has much relevance and despite the set backs they have experienced, I for one still have faith that VTST is the team best placed to secure the aircraft’s future.
No, its reached 7 pages of chatter because people keep posting the same ill informed opinions and other kinds of nonsense that got the previous XH558 thread binned. If you pruned this one back to just the useful contributions from persons who know what they are actually talking about and got rid of the comments from persons who obviously can't be bothered to browse the previous posts, we'd still be on page 2.
As if to prove the above, here's a case in point. The Elvington scenario was dealt with a few pages back but it's still being mooted on page 7.
I know you're being silly (at least I assume you are!) but *if* a ferry flight ever happened (which it won't) then it surely would only be allowed to be a short hop somewhere anyway.Brevet Cable wrote: ↑Tue 30 Aug 2022, 3:06 pmPsst........Orion wrote:...and the other is the suitable location as most, if not all of them, already have a Vulcan.
Saint Athan !!
Where are those hiding? They're probably already buckets!
I disagree, I believe this thread continues because it’s provoked some interesting discussion; not everyone participating in the debate is an aviation expert and the debate has all been in a good spirit. There’s been no tittle tattle or nastiness.tache3 wrote: ↑Tue 30 Aug 2022, 4:34 pmNo, its reached 7 pages of chatter because people keep posting the same ill informed opinions and other kinds of nonsense that got the previous XH558 thread binned. If you pruned this one back to just the useful contributions from persons who know what they are actually talking about and got rid of the comments from persons who obviously can't be bothered to browse the previous posts, we'd still be on page 2.
As if to prove the above, here's a case in point. The Elvington scenario was dealt with a few pages back but it's still being mooted on page 7.
To me Kemble would be a great choice. Tell you what, we need one of those clever choice preference voting buttons with a selection of possible locations - see what folk think. Dunno how to set one up so we need a volunteer!Brevet Cable wrote: ↑Tue 30 Aug 2022, 3:06 pmPsst........Orion wrote:...and the other is the suitable location as most, if not all of them, already have a Vulcan.
Saint Athan !!
I should have explained it better....it was more aimed at where it should go if it was transported by road.CJS wrote: I know you're being silly (at least I assume you are!) but *if* a ferry flight ever happened (which it won't) then it surely would only be allowed to be a short hop somewhere anyway.
St Athan!What about an RAF base having it as a gate guard - Connigsby, Scampton, Waddington?
I stand to be corrected, but...First Vulcan B.2 in RAF service, last Vulcan in RAF service, one of only a handful converted to MRR, one of only a handful converted to K.2 tanker & one of only 2 ( XL426 being the first ) which were VDF.If it had flown the Blackbuck raids then at least it would have some tangible history behind it.
I voted for Mordor where it would melt obviously, and the vote was counted. Now, after its locked, its vanished. I'm complaining that the voting was rigged from the outset. Nothing is ever straight where 558 is concerned!
Err.....Waddington, seriously?
The back gate perhaps.
I would argue that room is one of the more easily overcome problems they have. It's big, but not so big that if you really wanted to, most airfields could find space for a Vulcan.
Derek there was a rumour flying around, here or fighter control or at Fairford (senior moment) the Manchester are trying to downsize the viewing area so might not be possible.
It would only be two working V-Bombers if by some monsterous miracle, CAA said yes to a ferry flight (which we all know is almost certainly not going to happen)HeyfordDave111 wrote: ↑Tue 30 Aug 2022, 9:19 pm1 question then a bit of blurb as to why i think that....
question......Does the VTTS wind up when it is clear 558 has no future with them in 8-9 months time and the buckets stop filling?
Now, hear me out here as i shall explain my reasoning behind this huge statement........
558 will go, 1 way or another, to Elvington. yup, said it, Elvington.
You see, Once it was announced that the debacle would finish, they distanced themselves from the argument about its' new home. What better way than to do this and deflect attention away from them while they carry out their thoughts and potential pulling power of 558 on the runway?
This deflection is clever, as everything goes quiet regarding the Big 'E' and they can draw their plans against us ..... oh sorry, i went all Richard Burton there.
So ask yourself..... what does Elvington have that others without a vulcan have, within 'sensible' transit ....either by air or road, from the sewage works? 'Sensible' has to be cost effective as well as comparitively easy to, accomplish and bring something to the Elvington 'Party'.
It has an established and fantastic museum with a good band of great guys and gals. It has a runway to run on if needs be, it could even have hangar space if funds allow......and......
For that i give you 2 working V bombers.