A-W Meteor NF.14 WS788 Restoration Project

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I know we really do need to come up with something. This project is as much about the people as the aircraft herself.
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05/09/2021 Update
It's been a one day weekend, as I had to do domestic duties today; the mumblings of such words as "lawnmower" required quelling at home. Anyway yesterday Laurence and I were in. My first job was to see if the nose had moved any. After a week to think about it, another liberal application of penetration oil, and another couple of "wiggles" from us, there is definitely daylight to be seen
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I know the pic is a little distorted, but my phone chose some odd mode to take the shot in. The important thing is, we are definitely beating the locator pin corrosion chokehold on the nose. A couple more weeks careful manipulation, and I think we'll see the extension nose off! While I was doing this for a good chunk of the morning, Laurence was finishing the paint prep on the canopy frame chassis
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Seeing as it was a good painting day, I decided to prep up a few more bits. The port rear wing root fairing had again been partly paint stripped a while ago; I decided to finish the process with the sander. While doing so I found this part had just been painted over and over, giving us a lot of different layers of colours from 788's history to look at including her 1960's high speed silver coat, and beneath that her NF paint!
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I also found a nice little example from her flying days of a diligent "Erk" at work; he had clearly spotted this crack in the wing root fairing forming and done the right thing, stop drilling it to stop it propagating further
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While I was prepping this panel Laurence commenced priming the canopy frame chassis
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After which I nicked the roller off him to do the fairing!
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You could almost put that in the garden as a piece of modern art... Well... come to think of it we do have a spare starboard one... :thinking:
The canopy chassis came up nicely too, in what Laurence has officially christened "Wierd Green"
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We went for a spot of late lunch, on return Laurence broke out fresh rollers and started returning the canopy chassis to "less wierd black"...
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There was enough primer in the roller tray to do a couple more little panels so I decided to prep and paint the leading edge sections of the wing join fairing strips. First I had to finish yet another job started years ago, before we moved inside in fact, replacing the last of the 4 catches which hold them on with a brand new item which has been rattling around our red tool chest for far too long now! That done, I cracked on with the prep, finding part numbers galore once more
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I then used the last of the primer in the tray on these, while Laurence finished off the canopy chassis' first coat
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What he omitted to tell me was he had used the last roller from our stock! So, I popped out to our nearest DIY superstore with some petty cash and returned with new rollers. His penance for not telling me he had used the roller stock was to clean up and repaint in GSE blue my recently acquired £8 bargain step (roadside sales can be a wonderful thing!), while I silvered the leading edge sections
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And the trailing edge fairing
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I have to say, he did do a nice job!
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Even adding "METEOR" stencilling once it was dry to dissuade anyone from "liberating" it
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The canopy chassis also received a second coat
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After which we de-masked the data plate. I still find that mid November 1964 build date, a year before she retired, bizarre.
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It is a bit glossier than it would have been in service; we'll see how it cures and settles.
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To be fair I'm not fussed if it does dry glossy, it'll be easier to clean! That covers it for this weekend; more next time folks.
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That canopy rail has certainly come up nicely, do I remember correctly that you’re having a new blown canopy made?

As for ‘Weird Green’, I’d have said that it was Humbrol RAF Grey/Green Interior No.78, myself!
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I’ve a few ‘persuaders’ of various sizes that’ll sort that nose out if you want to borrow them 🤣
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Domvickery wrote:
Sun 05 Sep 2021, 10:27 pm
I’ve a few ‘persuaders’ of various sizes that’ll sort that nose out if you want to borrow them 🤣
I recommend the use of a gas spanner. It cant be stuck if you make it all runny.

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Tony, yes, we are having new transparencies made for the old girl.
78 probably isn't far off!

We have a selection of suitable persuading sticks. The trick is persuading the nose off without causing harm...

Harm which would almost certainly include making it all runny!!
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Blue_2 wrote:
Mon 06 Sep 2021, 6:59 pm
Tony, yes, we are having new transparencies made for the old girl.
78 probably isn't far off!

We have a selection of suitable persuading sticks. The trick is persuading the nose off without causing harm...

Harm which would almost certainly include making it all runny!!
You need my personal favourite; an angly sparky persuader then!
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I have a one of them; that won't be getting used either!!
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A couple of us will be back in on 788 today, if I can manage to get my backside in gear that means there'll be an update for you later! In the meantime, I shall serve you a small aperitif in the form of an eBay win, a negative taken of 788 in her very earliest days at YAM, so early in fact...
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...as you can see from the jacks and trestles they are still actually assembling her! This is just an edit of the pic on the eBay listing; once I have run the negative through my magic scanning box I'll post up the results.
Hopefully we have a good day, and have much progress to share later...
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...no pressure then! :joy:

14/09/2021 Update
It's been a bitty sort of day today. Laurence was in for a couple of hours early on, so I set him on with the next bit of the canopy chassis needing preparing for paint while I attended to some other business, a very welcome visitor. Many of you who are involved in the aircraft preservation world will know of Mike Davey. He is one of the true gents in this game, when we started the 788 project he invited us to sort out a transit van, visit his farm and fill the van with as much Meteor as the poor van could carry; all I can say is it's a good thing the van was at the time brand new! He has continued to support us, punting components, info and contacts our way on a regular basis, and for the first time in far too long it was a pleasure to welcome him to the Naughty Corner!
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Needless to say, while poor Laurence was working away on the canopy chassis prep we were wandering the hangar and 788, talking aircraft, parts, banter, trades, and generally enjoying ourselves! I did persuade him (not that any persuasion was necessary after I mentioned the words "food" and "pub") to come spend a weekend with us soon, dismantling, inspecting and reassembling the Derwent we have on site, so I think it's safe to say you've not seen the last of him on this page!
Laurence did make a great amount of progress on the canopy section before he left, digging out some particularly nasty corrosion and leaving us with nice shiny metal
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He really is getting the hang of this aeroplaning malarkey... Once Mike had gone to carry on enjoying his holiday in God's County, I got on with the job I had intended for the day, prepping the lower port intake ring. These, as is the case with a surprising percentage of 788's airframe, are made of steel. Years of blocked drain holes in the bottom of the intakes had led to the lower sections of the intake rings being more or less permanently submerged in trapped water (readers who have been with us a while might remember the inundation we got out of each intake when we finally got them off the aircraft) and consequently, rust had set in. Adam is getting towards the point where he will soon be looking to permanently refit the new port lower nacelle, so the steel ring its front edge attaches to needed to be ready. Rust is an old and familiar enemy to me from my misspent youth restoring classic cars, so to combat it I reached for some equally old and familiar allies, in this case wire brush on the drill and Jenolite rust converter. I shifted as much loose rust off as I could, then set to applying the Jenolite
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Having applied it, you wait for it to turn a blue/purple hue...
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...which signifies the chemical soup has done its magic and halted the corrosion process
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This takes half an hour or so, and if it hasn't turned colour you simply reapply. In our case it did the job first time
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The treated area as seen from the point of view of a Derwent!
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From which position one is also afforded an unusual view of our mucky but otherwise excellent condition port main leg...
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Still waiting for the jenolite to dry, I popped the 2 large nose panels back on the jet for now.
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Partly to get them out of harm's way, and partly to free off the thumb latches which had inevitably been gummed shut by the primer and paint!
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An overview of the canopy chassis work. Laurence and Kane have done, and continue to do, top work on these structures
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Finally, just before close of play I got the intake ring in primer...
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This is as good as it's going to get. The rot has (hopefully) been stopped dead in its tracks.
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Yes it's not the perfect smooth surfaces it would have been from the factory, but it was only surface corrosion and pitting and there is still waaay more than enough strength in these structures for our purposes and to maintain the jet's structural integrity for many decades. The outer face does still need doing but there is no rush...
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...as the priority was readying this inside area of the piece for Adam to nail the new metal to!
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Job done!
Overall, a very enjoyable, sociable, and productive day had. Metalwork got done (eventually in my case), components exchanged, haggled, organised and downright shamelessly begged, banter had... not bad for a soggy wet Tuesday!
More next time folks.
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Another great update there Graham - and when I say "long may it continue" - I mean that in the sense of continual updates like this; not to drag this project out so long that I'm not around when she fires into life and taxies around Elvington ok...lol?
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Indeed Pete, I'd like to see the jet seen off before I get old(er) and grey(er)...!
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