"Miss Velma" Remarkable feat of Airmanship (Photos back)

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Postby Pen Pusher on Tue 11 Jul 2017, 7:34 pm

Andover wrote: Take-offs only westwards, landings only eastwards,


So the wind has to constantly change direction every time there is a take off and landing?

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Re: "Miss Velma" Remarkable feat of Airmanship (Photos back)

Postby LN Strike Eagle on Tue 11 Jul 2017, 7:37 pm

Andover wrote:Why don't they bring into force: Take-offs only westwards, landings only eastwards, so no LOW flying over the M11? Any display flights over the M11 would have sufficient height to clear it.

Because warbirds of various descriptions are very critical on wind direction for take-off and landing and you may well limit what can fly in such circumstances.

Gladiator for example - needs to be landed either into a headwind, or with a crosswind from the left.
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Re: "Miss Velma" Remarkable feat of Airmanship (Photos back)

Postby Andover on Tue 11 Jul 2017, 7:37 pm

Well, just thinking lives are far more important, and you often get nil-wind days..?
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Re: "Miss Velma" Remarkable feat of Airmanship (Photos back)

Postby paullangford on Tue 11 Jul 2017, 8:00 pm

Fantastic sequence of photos, thanks for sharing :up:
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Re: "Miss Velma" Remarkable feat of Airmanship (Photos back)

Postby xr221 on Tue 11 Jul 2017, 11:04 pm

Film of the Miss Velma flight here - it does not include the wheels up landing, just the final turns and glide - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LdrY79g99Q

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Re: "Miss Velma" Remarkable feat of Airmanship (Photos back)

Postby Canon on Wed 12 Jul 2017, 12:36 am

LN Strike Eagle wrote:
Gladiator for example - needs to be landed either into a headwind, or with a crosswind from the left.


Why specifically a crosswind from the left??
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Re: "Miss Velma" Remarkable feat of Airmanship (Photos back)

Postby Cole on Wed 12 Jul 2017, 7:12 am

Canon wrote:
LN Strike Eagle wrote:
Gladiator for example - needs to be landed either into a headwind, or with a crosswind from the left.


Why specifically a crosswind from the left??


Probably something to do with the engine torque
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Re: Miss Velma Remarkable feat of Airmanship Duxford

Postby paullangford on Thu 13 Jul 2017, 6:16 am

DerekF wrote:While not condoning those standing where they shouldn't, it is up to the OP what he does with his photos. No-one else. If he wants to sell them ,share them, delete them, it's his call.


Miss Velma came in parallel to the M11 & flying North, so these look to be taken from Hunts Road, you're perfectly allowed to be there.
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Postby DerekF on Thu 13 Jul 2017, 7:02 am

Understood. When I posted, it wasn't obvious where the OP was standing.
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Re: "Miss Velma" Remarkable feat of Airmanship (Photos back)

Postby King Cobra on Sat 15 Jul 2017, 8:58 am

A big thumbs up to the OP for reposting these pictures in spite of what the forum's self appointed moral guardians thought. If they'e unhappy with Admin's decision to allow them, they know what they can do. Back to the images - an interesting sequence that goes some way to helping us understand the high quality airmanship involved in getting the aircraft down relatively intact. Lucky him for being in the right place at the right time.
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Re: "Miss Velma" Remarkable feat of Airmanship (Photos back)

Postby Thoughtful_Flyer on Sat 15 Jul 2017, 11:30 am

King Cobra wrote:A big thumbs up to the OP for reposting these pictures in spite of what the forum's self appointed moral guardians thought. If they'e unhappy with Admin's decision to allow them, they know what they can do. Back to the images - an interesting sequence that goes some way to helping us understand the high quality airmanship involved in getting the aircraft down relatively intact. Lucky him for being in the right place at the right time.


I am not sure that they do that. They are a superb set of pictures recording the final moments of the flight and I totally defend the photographer's right to post them. However they tell us nothing about what happened before that point in the flight and what warnings, if any, the pilot had about developing problems.

It may indeed have been "high quality airmanship" and the best that could possibly have been done from the first indication of trouble. However, the photographs don't prove that one way or the other.
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Re: "Miss Velma" Remarkable feat of Airmanship (Photos back)

Postby LN Strike Eagle on Sat 15 Jul 2017, 11:41 am

Damage to the right wingtip was caused by a concrete block in the field, concealed by the crop. Without that unfortunate contact, it would be even more intact. :clap:
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