Great November light at Neuburg / Zell Air Base

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Great November light at Neuburg / Zell Air Base

Sun 29 Nov 2009, 1:19 pm

Here some November impressions from Neuburg Air Base, my homebase. The sun is low, warm light - I like the conditions. Here we go:

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In 11/09 we had precious little air traffic in Zell from the local Typhoons, but nice visitors.

German Army Bo-105
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GAF Transall & Tonka

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An-26

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F-16A-ADF Italian Air Force

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and beautiful sunset atmosphere:

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All in all it was a nice month at Zell Air Base. Hope you like the pictures.

Re: Great November light at Neuburg / Zell Air Base

Sun 29 Nov 2009, 1:40 pm

Woderfull shots in brilliant conditions. Good variety too.

True the images might benefit from better editing, but good angles and motives all the way.

Egon/CPH

Re: Great November light at Neuburg / Zell Air Base

Sun 29 Nov 2009, 4:50 pm

Sod all wrong with those in my opinion (means sod all to most on here, lol!!) those last 2 look amazing!!

Re: Great November light at Neuburg / Zell Air Base

Sun 29 Nov 2009, 7:36 pm

not only look good but have captured the moment exceptionall well, lets see some more.

Re: Great November light at Neuburg / Zell Air Base

Sun 29 Nov 2009, 8:36 pm

Ignore the criticisms,those shots are brilliant.Loving the last 2 Typhoons ,and the F-16s are a top notch too. :clap: :topbombing:

Re: Great November light at Neuburg / Zell Air Base

Sun 29 Nov 2009, 9:50 pm

lightningdes wrote:Ignore the criticisms,those shots are brilliant.Loving the last 2 Typhoons ,and the F-16s are a top notch too. :clap: :topbombing:

Thank you

DanO1978 wrote:These are let down by your editing - has the Shadow/Highlight tool been used at all here?


I´m a little bit surprised about this message. Tool was used as required. Ok, I edited the pictures for exposure as main use but it should be ok on the web with this editing, too. Are you using a calibrated display??

Re: Great November light at Neuburg / Zell Air Base

Sun 29 Nov 2009, 10:21 pm

Seriously, i cannot belive anyone has said anything other than awesome.......... :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :loser:

something wrong with these my ar$%£........

go i wish mine were halve as good..

keep em up...totally fab :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:

Re: Great November light at Neuburg / Zell Air Base

Sun 29 Nov 2009, 10:33 pm

give the man a chance, Dan, point out the issues you have spotted, we can all learn more.

Re: Great November light at Neuburg / Zell Air Base

Sun 29 Nov 2009, 11:29 pm

I'm, sorry,, maybe a bit harsh in what i said, but i am an everyday viewer of this site, and i would die to have pics like that,

i personally cannot see a problem with any pic, but Peter is right lets hear Dans view, i for one could do with a few pointers..... :blinky:

Re: Great November light at Neuburg / Zell Air Base

Mon 30 Nov 2009, 7:05 pm

Nothing wrong with these shots wish mine were as good,ignore the negative comments. :smile: :smile:

Re: Great November light at Neuburg / Zell Air Base

Mon 30 Nov 2009, 7:12 pm

I agree with Dan to an extent but still feel these are great shots. As for negative comments, they were constructive criticisms and I'm sure the photographer is as keen to improve as anyone else.
1st and 3rd last for me. :smile:

Chris.

Re: Great November light at Neuburg / Zell Air Base

Mon 30 Nov 2009, 8:00 pm

Macc wrote: As for negative comments, they were constructive criticisms and I'm sure the photographer is as keen to improve as anyone else.


Spot on!

Still wonderfull shots :tongue:

Egon/CPH

Re: Great November light at Neuburg / Zell Air Base

Mon 30 Nov 2009, 9:19 pm

I would have thought that if the comments are to be viewed as constructive then we need to see something like 'shot 1, seems to have a little too much highlight/shadow tool usage as this has caused a halo effect or colour shift around the tail, similarly on shot x, y etc' Instead of we get 'These are let down by your editing'

Come on Dan, put us our misery and impart some of your expertise.

Re: Great November light at Neuburg / Zell Air Base

Tue 01 Dec 2009, 1:11 am

Dan is spot on with what he says, the shadows/highlights tool should be viewed with disdain and avoided. As he says some of the shots are pretty good but the editing has let most of them down with them looking un-natural. If you post shots on a public forum and enjoy it when people pat you on the back then you have to also be ready to accept it when someone offers constructive criticism and not get all upset.
Ignore the criticism

Yes, that's how we learn isn't it, ignoring valid feedback... :roll:

Re: Great November light at Neuburg / Zell Air Base

Tue 01 Dec 2009, 9:40 pm

StevenH wrote:Dan is spot on with what he says, the shadows/highlights tool should be viewed with disdain and avoided. As he says some of the shots are pretty good but the editing has let most of them down with them looking un-natural. If you post shots on a public forum and enjoy it when people pat you on the back then you have to also be ready to accept it when someone offers constructive criticism and not get all upset.

Better??
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Re: Great November light at Neuburg / Zell Air Base

Tue 01 Dec 2009, 10:00 pm

It is Mathias, it's quite a bit sharper. :clap: Respect for going and working with constructive critiscm. :smile:

Chris

Re: Great November light at Neuburg / Zell Air Base

Tue 01 Dec 2009, 10:03 pm

I am not questioning Dans ability, i was more miffed that the comment was made, then no attempt to explain or assist in letting anyone know what the problem was, I'm sure everyone hates comments etc, but will take them if given .....


lets just enjoy the pics me thinks.............

Re: Great November light at Neuburg / Zell Air Base

Tue 01 Dec 2009, 11:07 pm

Firstly some excellent captures there, well done. As regards the post processing comments by others I would say that DanO's initial comment didn't strike me as particularly friendly, it may have been intended as constructive criticism but that's not how it came over when I first read it. Post processing can make or break a picture and whilst it is noticeable in some of these I don't think they've been ruined because of it.

Re: Great November light at Neuburg / Zell Air Base

Wed 02 Dec 2009, 12:04 am

You admit yourself to using the tool - it serves only to give a picture an unnatural haloing and artificial look.


Dan is spot on with what he says, the shadows/highlights tool should be viewed with disdain and avoided


Dear oh dear, more blunt tools at work. Au contraire, H&S is not a crime. Adobe went to time and trouble to provide it. It is as much a blunt a tool as any other in Photoshop... when you don't know how to use it.



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