jalfrezi wrote:Who cares? There's far too much pettiness and one-upmanship on the forum now, and this thread is the worst example of it.
Yes, fair point. Apologies. I certainly don't (care that is).
jalfrezi wrote:Who cares? There's far too much pettiness and one-upmanship on the forum now, and this thread is the worst example of it.
bobby 1211 wrote:It looks like we wont see the mig-29 or su-22 this year. Most polish pilots are scared to fly the mig-29 and su-22 due to the ejection seats which are used on both aircraft.
bobby 1211 wrote:Most polish pilots are scared to fly the mig-29 and su-22 due to the ejection seats which are used on both aircraft.
CJS wrote:bobby 1211 wrote:Most polish pilots are scared to fly the mig-29 and su-22 due to the ejection seats which are used on both aircraft.
Can I ask your source for this info?
As others have said, the SU-22 seems like it will be discussing this year.
I'd certainly love to see one in the air above Gloucestershire this July
Airshowhammer wrote:CJS wrote:bobby 1211 wrote:Most polish pilots are scared to fly the mig-29 and su-22 due to the ejection seats which are used on both aircraft.
Can I ask your source for this info?
As others have said, the SU-22 seems like it will be discussing this year.
I'd certainly love to see one in the air above Gloucestershire this July
My thoughts exactly! Bobby, do you know that the pilots are scared or is that just putting 2+2 together and getting 5?
The fitter pair were my favourite highlight in recent years. Wasn't the best display but my god them touch and go's. Went right through your chest!
CJS wrote:bobby 1211 wrote:Most polish pilots are scared to fly the mig-29 and su-22 due to the ejection seats which are used on both aircraft.
Can I ask your source for this info?
As others have said, the SU-22 seems like it will be displaying this year.
I'd certainly love to see one in the air above Gloucestershire this July
bobby 1211 wrote:Looking at the polish air force demos, it looks like they have a team called 'skorpion' which flies 2 mil mi-24 helicopters so i would love to see them come this year
No translator needed to see the first article is from 2018. As Mr. Crusher has posted, things has changed since then. Also, Poland doesn't have special assigned demo pilots, as soon as they decide to display a Fulcrum somewhere, someone is appointed to work up a display for that event. (Source: Polish MiG 29 pilot that flew at one af the RNLAF shows on the official DVD.)bobby 1211 wrote:The sources are in Polish but you can use a translator website.
pilots are scared about flying mig-29 : https://www.rpo.gov.pl/pl/content/piloc ... ie-RPO-MON , https://portal-mundurowy.pl/index.php?o ... i-na-ziemi , http://www.tokfm.pl/Tokfm/7,103085,2452 ... wisku.html
and source that su-22 have same ejection seats as mig-29 https://www.newsweek.pl/polska/awaryjne ... ne/cens7j3. After the crash last year, all ejection seats got removed from su-22 and mig-29's for inspection resulting in new ejection seats as all old ones had a piece of metal which was too strong for the explosives to break causing the parachute not to open. The su-22 was grounded from the 6th of June until September so it was cancelled for RIAT 2018
aviodromefriend wrote:No translator needed to see the first article is from 2018. As Mr. Crusher has posted, things has changed since then. Also, Poland doesn't have special assigned demo pilots, as soon as they decide to display a Fulcrum somewhere, someone is appointed to work up a display for that event. (Source: Polish MiG 29 pilot that flew at one af the RNLAF shows on the official DVD.)bobby 1211 wrote:The sources are in Polish but you can use a translator website.
pilots are scared about flying mig-29 : https://www.rpo.gov.pl/pl/content/piloc ... ie-RPO-MON , https://portal-mundurowy.pl/index.php?o ... i-na-ziemi , http://www.tokfm.pl/Tokfm/7,103085,2452 ... wisku.html
and source that su-22 have same ejection seats as mig-29 https://www.newsweek.pl/polska/awaryjne ... ne/cens7j3. After the crash last year, all ejection seats got removed from su-22 and mig-29's for inspection resulting in new ejection seats as all old ones had a piece of metal which was too strong for the explosives to break causing the parachute not to open. The su-22 was grounded from the 6th of June until September so it was cancelled for RIAT 2018
aviodromefriend wrote:No translator needed to see the first article is from 2018. As Mr. Crusher has posted, things has changed since then. Also, Poland doesn't have special assigned demo pilots, as soon as they decide to display a Fulcrum somewhere, someone is appointed to work up a display for that event. (Source: Polish MiG 29 pilot that flew at one af the RNLAF shows on the official DVD.)
UPDATE: On February 4, 2019, the RPO received the Defense Ministry's reply (from January 28) that MIG planes are safe
At the end of September, the Su-22 military aircraft resumed flights. MiG-29 flights were resumed at the beginning of November.
Curse you Chris and your facts getting in the way of some old tosh!!Chrisse wrote:aviodromefriend wrote:No translator needed to see the first article is from 2018. As Mr. Crusher has posted, things has changed since then. Also, Poland doesn't have special assigned demo pilots, as soon as they decide to display a Fulcrum somewhere, someone is appointed to work up a display for that event. (Source: Polish MiG 29 pilot that flew at one af the RNLAF shows on the official DVD.)
The Polish Air Force abandoned the system you refer to (Volkel 2009 DVD, and you call a 2018 article outdated? ) years ago and have dedicated display pilots for the F-16 and Mig-29, two in the latter case actually. One comes from Minsk-Mazowiecki and does the pair display with an Sbach, the solo display pilot comes from Malbork. Source: Me meeting them at EAC.
Maybe they have dedicated crews for other displays too but I can't say that for certain.
jasonT1981 wrote:2 things from those articles showing how out of date they areUPDATE: On February 4, 2019, the RPO received the Defense Ministry's reply (from January 28) that MIG planes are safeAt the end of September, the Su-22 military aircraft resumed flights. MiG-29 flights were resumed at the beginning of November.
bobby 1211 wrote: The demo pilot is called kpt. Adrian Rojek and has been the demo pilot since 2014 and he was the pilot who was involved in the crash last month is in hospital.
Go4Long wrote:Now we’re arguing about a demo that’s not even rumoured to be intending to come to RIAT?
Airshowhammer wrote:So what we thinking for Thursdays update? Mig-29?
Have you thought about visiting the Air Tattoo on the Friday?
We've listed our top 5 reasons why you need to visit the show on Friday here: https://www.airtattoo.com/airshow/visiting/air-tattoo-blog/n/2019/apr/12/5-reasons-you-need-to-visit-the-air-tattoo?utm_term=friday
bobby 1211 wrote:The demo pilot is called kpt. Adrian Rojek and has been the demo pilot since 2014 and he was the pilot who was involved in the crash last month is in hospital.