Boris Force One?
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Also, bear in mind that this repaint would likely have been planned a good year in advance regardless of scheduled maintenance. Having worked for an airline up until fairly recently, we were looking at getting aircraft repainted as they reached their four to six year period to do so and with limited capacity available, we were having to book paintshop slots for 12 months' time (the earliest available).
It is just pure coincidence, albeit an unfortunate one that the timing comes as we have a pandemic to tackle.
However, having sad that, at least it is work being done by a British company so if anything it will keep people in employment in this country so that is a good thing.
It is just pure coincidence, albeit an unfortunate one that the timing comes as we have a pandemic to tackle.
However, having sad that, at least it is work being done by a British company so if anything it will keep people in employment in this country so that is a good thing.
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A friend works on Cambridge Airport and is involved with the aircraft, the money is all part of the contract agreement with Air Tanker, each aircraft is budgeted for, and each will be going in for D-Checks and repaint however as this one was due in and due a re-paint it was chosen for the colour swap, the difference in price between stock grey and a different colour is very little as paints are stocked for other aircraft operators, they don't order it in specially for each aircraft that comes in.Tommy wrote: ↑Thu 18 Jun 2020, 9:59 amDo you have a source for that? I was having a quick google last night to try and find the answer but couldn’t come up with much about the source of the £900k figure other than “Government admits”.Southendnick wrote: ↑Thu 18 Jun 2020, 9:57 amThe aircraft is in for its scheduled maintenance overhaul which will require a complete strip and repaint, the cost is a total of £900,000 all in, it has already been budgeted for and is inline with planned works.
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What's with the UNITED KINGDOM lettering or is that just artistic licence? apart from Air Force One I don't think any official VIP planes in the world have other than that country's airforce as identification.
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Yes and I've seen it can't remember where CdG? it's very similar to the anti-flash white UK design. And it does indeed have Republique Francaise on the side (and no A de l'A roundels in common with the PdF)capercaillie wrote: ↑Thu 18 Jun 2020, 2:22 pmThat's only his little one, as its cold and wet. He's got a much bigger one when he needs it!
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Really ? I thought most did, including that French one on the previous page and above !
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I prefer this one
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Same press saying that it’s currently stored in a secure hangar at Marshalls. Yup, being local, it’s secure alright, practically backs onto a car showroom, office blocks and a mobile snack van!Southendnick wrote: ↑Thu 18 Jun 2020, 9:57 amThe aircraft is in for its scheduled maintenance overhaul which will require a complete strip and repaint, the cost is a total of £900,000 all in, it has already been budgeted for and is inline with planned works.
All the BS about just the paint being £900,000 is just the press making the weak of mind fall for what they want the weak of mind to believe.
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If a paint shop keeps that amount of paint in stock then they need to have a serious look at their supply chain. Is it being designed and masked/decals made for free then? I doubt it. A newpaint scheme is a non-trivial exercise. It will have to be properly designed and approved, especially on an aircraft the size of an A330 and especially anything involving the military.Southendnick wrote: ↑Fri 19 Jun 2020, 4:14 pmA friend works on Cambridge Airport and is involved with the aircraft, the money is all part of the contract agreement with Air Tanker, each aircraft is budgeted for, and each will be going in for D-Checks and repaint however as this one was due in and due a re-paint it was chosen for the colour swap, the difference in price between stock grey and a different colour is very little as paints are stocked for other aircraft operators, they don't order it in specially for each aircraft that comes in.Tommy wrote: ↑Thu 18 Jun 2020, 9:59 amDo you have a source for that? I was having a quick google last night to try and find the answer but couldn’t come up with much about the source of the £900k figure other than “Government admits”.Southendnick wrote: ↑Thu 18 Jun 2020, 9:57 amThe aircraft is in for its scheduled maintenance overhaul which will require a complete strip and repaint, the cost is a total of £900,000 all in, it has already been budgeted for and is inline with planned works.
An ego boost for Johnson when the country can least afford it.
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Are all the A300’s the same configuration internally? I thought the VIP one had a unique layout compared to the rest?Southendnick wrote: ↑Fri 19 Jun 2020, 4:14 pmA friend works on Cambridge Airport and is involved with the aircraft, the money is all part of the contract agreement with Air Tanker, each aircraft is budgeted for, and each will be going in for D-Checks and repaint however as this one was due in and due a re-paint it was chosen for the colour swap, the difference in price between stock grey and a different colour is very little as paints are stocked for other aircraft operators, they don't order it in specially for each aircraft that comes in.Tommy wrote: ↑Thu 18 Jun 2020, 9:59 amDo you have a source for that? I was having a quick google last night to try and find the answer but couldn’t come up with much about the source of the £900k figure other than “Government admits”.Southendnick wrote: ↑Thu 18 Jun 2020, 9:57 amThe aircraft is in for its scheduled maintenance overhaul which will require a complete strip and repaint, the cost is a total of £900,000 all in, it has already been budgeted for and is inline with planned works.
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Yes BF1 has been internally refitted with 58 seatsstarbuck wrote: ↑Fri 19 Jun 2020, 9:40 pmAre all the A300’s the same configuration internally? I thought the VIP one had a unique layout compared to the rest?Southendnick wrote: ↑Fri 19 Jun 2020, 4:14 pmA friend works on Cambridge Airport and is involved with the aircraft, the money is all part of the contract agreement with Air Tanker, each aircraft is budgeted for, and each will be going in for D-Checks and repaint however as this one was due in and due a re-paint it was chosen for the colour swap, the difference in price between stock grey and a different colour is very little as paints are stocked for other aircraft operators, they don't order it in specially for each aircraft that comes in.Tommy wrote: ↑Thu 18 Jun 2020, 9:59 amDo you have a source for that? I was having a quick google last night to try and find the answer but couldn’t come up with much about the source of the £900k figure other than “Government admits”.Southendnick wrote: ↑Thu 18 Jun 2020, 9:57 amThe aircraft is in for its scheduled maintenance overhaul which will require a complete strip and repaint, the cost is a total of £900,000 all in, it has already been budgeted for and is inline with planned works.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36719529
It sounds like the others can be configured with up to 300; or none if they are just used for refuelliing. Or any number in between including hospital beds.
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Do you mean A330?starbuck wrote: ↑Fri 19 Jun 2020, 9:40 pmAre all the A300’s the same configuration internally? I thought the VIP one had a unique layout compared to the rest?Southendnick wrote: ↑Fri 19 Jun 2020, 4:14 pmA friend works on Cambridge Airport and is involved with the aircraft, the money is all part of the contract agreement with Air Tanker, each aircraft is budgeted for, and each will be going in for D-Checks and repaint however as this one was due in and due a re-paint it was chosen for the colour swap, the difference in price between stock grey and a different colour is very little as paints are stocked for other aircraft operators, they don't order it in specially for each aircraft that comes in.Tommy wrote: ↑Thu 18 Jun 2020, 9:59 amDo you have a source for that? I was having a quick google last night to try and find the answer but couldn’t come up with much about the source of the £900k figure other than “Government admits”.Southendnick wrote: ↑Thu 18 Jun 2020, 9:57 amThe aircraft is in for its scheduled maintenance overhaul which will require a complete strip and repaint, the cost is a total of £900,000 all in, it has already been budgeted for and is inline with planned works.
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Henceforth to be known by me as 'UK1' which is more in keeping with the purpose of the jet when VIP working than the rather silly BF1, which does nothing to raise our profile as a country.
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After spending 20 years in the aviation restoration scene you make friends across the restoration and commercial sectors, from private collectors to large companies and everything in between, so whilst you might not have friends plenty of us who have drippled blood, sweat and tears on projects worked long into the night and in all weathers from sun rain wind and snow, you form friendships and stay friends even when ill-heath puts an end to working in something you loved doing.
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Apologies if this has already been posted somewhere, but photos are surfacing of the first look at the new scheme.
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Looks great, get the whole lot painted I reckon, better than boring grey lumps.
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Sure Arse Force One is a better play on the name?
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Clearly going to be a marmite scheme...
Personally I think it looks pants. To me, it looks unfinished and has the feel of a budget airline.
Personally I think it looks pants. To me, it looks unfinished and has the feel of a budget airline.
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I think it looks nice! Only change I'd make is to have ROYAL AIR FORCE in blue along the top, instead of UNITED KINGDOM.
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Think this (with corrected fin flash) would have been a lot more retro and would recall the days when we had a decent air force...
And they'd only have had to paint/repaint the top half if required.
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It’s pretty nice, I must say. A bit unoriginal, but pretty nice overall.PeterR wrote: ↑Thu 25 Jun 2020, 2:50 pmI think it looks nice! Only change I'd make is to have ROYAL AIR FORCE in blue along the top, instead of UNITED KINGDOM.
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I don’t really get the “UNITED KINGDOM” in yellow and the need for two “Royal Air Force” corporate logos on each side. The serial seems massive, and all.
But overall not a bad looking plane.
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Although basically OK, it looks a bit muddled and a bit amateurish, certainly lacks the professional design touch in my opinion. Sometimes less is more.