RIAT 2022 Discussion Thread

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Re-starting the thread by posting this neat blog post re participation next year:

Dear Air Tattoo Supporters

We thought you would like to hear from our Head of Air Operations, Peter Reoch, as he says he's very busy and we are all wondering what he and his team are up to at this time of year! Peter explains that far from being a quiet period for the Air Tattoo's Air Operations Department, the winter months are a critical period for the team in securing aircraft for the next show.

How do you decide which aircraft will take part in next summer's Air Tattoo?

We start by deciding on the themes for the event in April (15 months before the next event!), and over the summer we build the aircraft wish list considering factors such as aircraft that are relevant to the themes, practicalities of certain aircraft types attending (particularly those from other continents), rare aircraft types and any aircraft which it might be the last chance to see before their retirement from service. These are then worded into specific requests and fed into our formal invitation letters which are sent to the Commanders of Air Arms around the world in early October.

We follow these up with visits to their Defence Attachés at Embassies and High Commissions across London, which we carried out a few weeks ago. These conversations were particularly important this year to ensure we maintain our strong relationships with these representatives after a two-show hiatus. In addition to the formal process, we sometimes have international squadrons approach us directly wanting to bring their aircraft and we work to ensure their enthusiasm to attend is fed back to their chain of command to hopefully encourage the formal approach of their participation!

What are the themes for the Air Tattoo 2022?

Our anniversary theme will be a celebration of 75 years of the United States Air Force. As part of this theme, we plan to feature a diverse array of modern and historic United States Air Force aircraft both in our wonderful static displays and in the skies above RAF Fairford, with unique aerial demonstrations.

Our operational theme focuses on Training the Next Generation Air Force. We will shine the spotlight on all types of training aircraft, from elementary trainers which give young pilots their first taste of flight, all the way through to twin-stick operational conversion variants of modern combat jets. This will include showcasing iconic training aircraft in their final years of service, whilst also demonstrating new aircraft and systems which have revolutionised flying training. These will be linked into the Techno Zone® and ground exhibits to showcase technologies such as synthetic training devices.

As part of the training theme, we also hope to incorporate aggressor aircraft from contractors who provide vital 'Red Air' services alongside other specialised flying training service providers.

In addition to the two main themes, we will also have a focus on Her Majesty the Queen's Platinum Jubilee and Sustainable Aviation.

How much will the pandemic affect your ability to attract international aircraft to the Air Tattoo?

After 3 years away there's a great enthusiasm from across the aviation community and I'm confident that, if things continue to go in the right direction, we'll have a good year with a full and diverse flying display programme as well as an extensive static display. New for 2022, the static aircraft park is being extended to include the South West loop which gives us an exciting opportunity to enhance the Green Zone over the weekend with lots of large aircraft for visitors to admire. We've already heard from an air arm of a nation that has never participated before and who have an ambition to participate with an aircraft. If this comes to fruition, they would be the 57th nation to attend which is very exciting news! Of course, all aircraft participation will be reliant on government/international travel restrictions, but with the removal of most travel constraints we're positive for a high level of international attendance next summer.

When will you start sharing news about these exciting aircraft that will be participating next summer?

Our policy is not to announce aircraft participation until we have received official confirmation of their attendance, which for most Air Arms is not decided until the Spring. However, we hope to be able to begin the weekly aircraft updates by February. These will include a behind the scenes update from the Air Operations Department as well as details about any aircraft which we have received confirmation of attendance for.


Can we expect to see any 'special' aerial set pieces or unique joint flypasts in the flying display and, if so, will they be on all three days of the airshow?

We listened to your feedback regarding the 2019 Air Tattoo and our objective is that the flying display programmes on Saturday and Sunday will be as similar as possible. We have several ideas and proposals for special aerial displays, which align with our themes, that the team will be working to try and make a reality over the coming months. Due to the complexity of arranging joint flypasts and unique set pieces, we'll be announcing these much closer to the show but please be assured we are working on them!

If you haven't yet bought your tickets demand is high so don't miss out and book [RIAT’s website].

Thank you for your continued support and see you next July.
Best Wishes
Peter and the Air Operations Team
I’m sure you’ve all see it/the email, but there’s some interesting titbits in there for sure!

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Lovely to see the Queen's Jubilee worked in :) RAF100 Style flypast?

I wonder who this new nation is? I've seen some crazy ideas floated around on FB.

That Rolls Royce electric prototype is going to be there I am guessing with the 'Sustainable aviation' theme.

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jasonT1981 wrote:
Sat 20 Nov 2021, 4:06 pm
Lovely to see the Queen's Jubilee worked in :) RAF100 Style flypast?
Going by the amount of appointments she had to cancel recently for health reasons, I'm not so sure that she will be around at that time.
jasonT1981 wrote:
Sat 20 Nov 2021, 4:06 pm
I wonder who this new nation is? I've seen some crazy ideas floated around on FB.
As they have now taken delivery of an aircraft, my guess is Luxemburg.

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aviodromefriend wrote:
Sat 20 Nov 2021, 4:40 pm
]As they have now taken delivery of an aircraft, my guess is Luxemburg.
What did they get?

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An A400M.

It’s also great to hear the south west loop will return!

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Tommy wrote:
Sat 20 Nov 2021, 6:10 pm
It’s also great to hear the south west loop will return!
Since Peter took over, every year had talk of the return of the loop. It hasn't happened yet (for obvious reasons). Still interested to know how DBH planned to have flying display aircraft there with the green entrance around too.
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jasonT1981 wrote:
Sat 20 Nov 2021, 5:45 pm
aviodromefriend wrote:
Sat 20 Nov 2021, 4:40 pm
]As they have now taken delivery of an aircraft, my guess is Luxemburg.
What did they get?
Luxembourg is already among the list of 56 by virtue of the NATO E-3s and 707s already attended.
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capercaillie wrote:
Sun 21 Nov 2021, 11:44 am
jasonT1981 wrote:
Sat 20 Nov 2021, 5:45 pm
aviodromefriend wrote:
Sat 20 Nov 2021, 4:40 pm
]As they have now taken delivery of an aircraft, my guess is Luxemburg.
What did they get?
Luxembourg is already among the list of 56 by virtue of the NATO E-3s and 707s already attended.
Which were never listed as Luxembourg but as NATO
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Well aware of that, but NATO strangely is not a nation. If we get a Luxembourg Air Force A400M it will tie a loose end, but you can't have it both ways and add a new nation.

1 Algeria
2 Argentina
3 Australia
4 Austria
5 Belgium
6 Brazil
7 Bulgaria
8 Canada
9 Chile
10 Colombia
11 Croatia
12 Czechia (formerly as part of Czechoslavakia)
13 Denmark
14 Estonia
15 Finland
16 France
17 Germany (including as West Germany)
18 Greece
19 Hungary
20 India
21 Ireland
22 Israel
23 Italy
24 Japan
25 Jordan
26 Kuwait
27 Latvia
28 Lithuania
29 Luxembourg (as NATO)
30 Malaysia
31 Malta
32 Morocco
33 Netherlands
34 New Zealand
35 Norway
36 Oman
37 Pakistan
38 Poland
39 Portugal
40 Qatar
41 Romania
42 Russia
43 Saudi Arabia
44 Slovakia (formerly as part of Czechoslavakia)
45 Slovenia
46 South Africa
47 South Korea
48 Spain
49 Sweden
50 Switzerland
51 Turkey
52 Ukraine
53 United Arab Emirates
54 United Kingdom
55 United States of America
56 Venezuela
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I’m going to go out on a limb and suggest Singapore. Noting their attendance and positive intentions at the virtual air tattoos.

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Tommy wrote:
Mon 22 Nov 2021, 12:32 am
I’m going to go out on a limb and suggest Singapore. Noting their attendance and positive intentions at the virtual air tattoos.
Oooooh their Black Knights would be an amazing addition (Yes, I am probably getting well ahead of myself on that one lol) Thunderbirds are a good display, but seeing an Aerobatic F16 Team Display would be exciting.

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Tommy wrote:
Mon 22 Nov 2021, 12:32 am
I’m going to go out on a limb and suggest Singapore. Noting their attendance and positive intentions at the virtual air tattoos.
A good call especially with the M346 based at Cazaux, shame they are incredibly dull compared to the A-4s but hey-ho.
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It would be quite funny if they were send something (like a C-130 or an A330) from Singapore itself, rather than send the Masters. Those Cazaux birds have a tradition to maintain! 😂

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To be honest I'd prefer either.

The Polish can send their Masters though, at least they have a bit of disruptive camo!
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If Singapore is the new air arm it would be nice for them to send F-15's.

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Hi All, I am late to the party this time
Anyone selling a MACH 1 or 2 pass?

Thanks!

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Some positive comments for next year (although to be fair, what aircrew don’t “want to come to RIAT” when asked)!

Interesting vid nonetheless.

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