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I might be late to the party, but why isn’t there a 3 day ticket/weekend ticket? Paying individually and locating 3 separate tickets is steep/little messy.

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Interesting read - comments about US participation are very interesting.

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JMC wrote:
Mon 10 Apr 2023, 9:23 am
I might be late to the party, but why isn’t there a 3 day ticket/weekend ticket? Paying individually and locating 3 separate tickets is steep/little messy.
Not sure its anything to do with FRIAT? FRIAT members have one pass for whatever days they visit.
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capercaillie wrote:
Mon 10 Apr 2023, 3:17 pm
JMC wrote:
Mon 10 Apr 2023, 9:23 am
I might be late to the party, but why isn’t there a 3 day ticket/weekend ticket? Paying individually and locating 3 separate tickets is steep/little messy.
Not sure its anything to do with FRIAT? FRIAT members have one pass for whatever days they visit.
Of course, my mistake!

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Just been reading the answers and the one about the commentary is pretty dumb. It's completely essential at an airshow. Not only is it quite handy to know what's going on, it's good to understand what's flying in front of you and most important of all, it's surely compulsory for any emergency announcements. Last year the total lack of any commentary in the grandstand seriously degraded my understanding and experience of the flying display and I know the same was said by anyone else I spoke to there. Hell, how am I meant to know if there's a problem with my car in the car park and I need to go to it, or something?

Sorry, but if you go to a public airshow and demand there be no commentary, you're wrong. Stick some ear plugs in and put up with it. Get some noise cancelling headphones. And if it's because you don't want the commentary in your videos, well, you can't hear the Tannoys from the back of the static, go film there. It's incredibly entitled to demand there be no commentary for anyone around you just because you have your own, probably silly, reasons for not liking it.

I genuinely find it incredible that the FRIAT team have ever even considered turning the commentary off, let alone doing it, if I'm honest.
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Back a few years ago at a FRIAT forum, a guy seriously wanted helicopter transfers to the friat stand. Also he asked if the show could be sponsored by... hasselblad.
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Well said Sam!

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Wissam24 wrote:
Sun 16 Apr 2023, 3:14 pm
Just been reading the answers and the one about the commentary is pretty dumb. It's completely essential at an airshow. Not only is it quite handy to know what's going on, it's good to understand what's flying in front of you and most important of all, it's surely compulsory for any emergency announcements. Last year the total lack of any commentary in the grandstand seriously degraded my understanding and experience of the flying display and I know the same was said by anyone else I spoke to there. Hell, how am I meant to know if there's a problem with my car in the car park and I need to go to it, or something?

Sorry, but if you go to a public airshow and demand there be no commentary, you're wrong. Stick some ear plugs in and put up with it. Get some noise cancelling headphones. And if it's because you don't want the commentary in your videos, well, you can't hear the Tannoys from the back of the static, go film there. It's incredibly entitled to demand there be no commentary for anyone around you just because you have your own, probably silly, reasons for not liking it.

I genuinely find it incredible that the FRIAT team have ever even considered turning the commentary off, let alone doing it, if I'm honest.
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I don't mind the commentry, sometimes it can provide some unknown facts and without it you don't know where the display teams are coming from next (Red Arrows aside as I think we all know their display like the back of our hands)

What I don't like is the music blasting during high impact displays drowning out the roar of the engines.

I don't think headphones to listen to commentry would go down to well as it will muffling the noise of the aircraft with them in your ear.

Though I think it was at Cosford 2018 (Peter's last Cosford before he took over RIAT) where the speakers in the Cosford club went out just as the BBMF Lancaster, Dakota, Spitfire and Hurricane arrived. That was perfectly timed :D
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There's been no commentary in the grandstand for years. I was told it was because some of the people who sit in front of the grandstand kept vandalising the cables to turn it off so the PA people would not install it there anymore - probably just an old wives' tale.

I've taken my own little radio for years and listen to it over Airshow FM. Not ideal but it works. Last year I used a little combined radio/earpiece thing that I picked up at Silverstone and it worked a treat as they share the same frequency. It shows there is a ready-made commercial product - they just need to bung their logo on it and charge a tenner for the pleasure of receiving what those outside of FRIAT get for free.
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bishbashbosh wrote:
Tue 18 Apr 2023, 11:41 pm
There's been no commentary in the grandstand for years.
Have to admit, I’ve never made a point to remember it one way or the other, but I can only recall the a time with no commentary being last year. There has been issues over volume in previous years (often it can be too loud for some close to the speakers), or it can occasionally malfunction, but I don’t recall it ever being switched off, but perhaps I forget.

I agree with the other comments on here about it. The thing that strikes me is how unscientific it all was. I could be wrong, but I don’t recall the matter ever being put to a vote or members even being asked, so I wonder if the majority of FRIAT support that decision, I don’t know. If they do, well then fair enough, I suppose.

There’s nothing stopping them from doing a circular email poll to FRIATers now, I suppose, to get an idea of what the majority want one way or the other.

If the decision really is for no commentary in FRIAT, they might as well save some expense and not erect the loudspeakers at the back of the stand in the first place, then.

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Tommy wrote:
Wed 19 Apr 2023, 7:49 am
If the decision really is for no commentary in FRIAT, they might as well save some expense and not erect the loudspeakers at the back of the stand in the first place, then.
Most likely a safely requirement to have the ability to communicate instructions in the event of an emergency

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A fair point, Mike.

And I suppose that illustrates the silliness of the idea, as it’s paid for, and sitting there (we hope!) unused for the weekend for that basis, when the system can serve some other purpose (ie providing interesting non-emergency information and direction).

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Pretty sure they have the ability to make their own announcements in the FRIAT stand. The appearance of 'air crew' in the marquee for meet/greet/signings etc. I'm sure I've heard them announce (on departures day) when the next available escorted walk back across to Blue entrance will be happening.

I have ear buds in anyway, so no commentary, or with commentary doesn't really nark me. It can be invasive in YouTube videos when I watch them back. But then I'm aware that YouTube videos with certain pieces of music picked up in the display backing track can trigger Copyright flags as well.
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i think commentary is part and partial of an airshow so it really doesn't bother me.

that said, i'm surprised they haven't got a set up like old warden do for the drive ins whereby you tune into the commentary rather than have it through speakers. I'd rather have that than having to listen into speakers in the next enclosure

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Just after some advice , doing FRIAT this year , do the tickets come as the former ID Type Cards with neck chains/badges or are they just a pdf emailed tickets ??
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microlight wrote:
Thu 15 Jun 2023, 7:27 pm
Just after some advice , doing FRIAT this year , do the tickets come as the former ID Type Cards with neck chains/badges or are they just a pdf emailed tickets ??
Both. This was from Wendy on FB today
FRIAT members will receive an eticket automatically as part of the eticket roll out but the physical passes are in the post
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Since this is out in the open, is it OK to share?
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Because i'll have my driving licence this time next year, i'm going to take the plunge for FRIAT for the first time, can't wait!

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Looks like I made the first post for 2024 :-)

This will be my first show after trying for centuries so I have sprung for the FRIAT package. I also want to go on the Monday for a few hours before heading home but am struggling to find a way from Swindon to the base. One option is to hire a little puddle jumper car and drive in from Swindon. Can anyone advise on Monday traffic and parking please? I'll likely use the FRIAT grandstand, so I need to know if it's possible to park at the base and if the parking is included in my pass? All help gratefully received.

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NeilDC wrote:
Thu 16 May 2024, 10:43 pm
Looks like I made the first post for 2024 :-)

This will be my first show after trying for centuries so I have sprung for the FRIAT package. I also want to go on the Monday for a few hours before heading home but am struggling to find a way from Swindon to the base. One option is to hire a little puddle jumper car and drive in from Swindon. Can anyone advise on Monday traffic and parking please? I'll likely use the FRIAT grandstand, so I need to know if it's possible to park at the base and if the parking is included in my pass? All help gratefully received.

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Monday traffic is fine, beauty of FRIAT on that day is you needn't be especially early. Parking is in the blue car-park in fields behind the base....was really easy on my first time doing it last year.

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Bodz156 wrote:
Thu 16 May 2024, 10:46 pm
NeilDC wrote:
Thu 16 May 2024, 10:43 pm
Looks like I made the first post for 2024 :-)

This will be my first show after trying for centuries so I have sprung for the FRIAT package. I also want to go on the Monday for a few hours before heading home but am struggling to find a way from Swindon to the base. One option is to hire a little puddle jumper car and drive in from Swindon. Can anyone advise on Monday traffic and parking please? I'll likely use the FRIAT grandstand, so I need to know if it's possible to park at the base and if the parking is included in my pass? All help gratefully received.

Cheers

Neil
Monday traffic is fine, beauty of FRIAT on that day is you needn't be especially early. Parking is in the blue car-park in fields behind the base....was really easy on my first time doing it last year.
That's really helpful, thank you :-)

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I attended RIAT for the first time last year, and this year I have opted for FRIAT (cannot wait!). Is parking included for all days with FRIAT? There was no option to add parking for each day when booking online.

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and a line in the latest FRIAT email adds confusion - If you have not already booked transport and need to book car parking or Swindon Shuttle Bus, please email me and I can get this booked for you.

- do I need to book car parking? just though we all turned up!