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Hurriquin
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Aircraft Identification Help Requested

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Hi Everyone,

In a batch of old prints I have recently acquired, I have come across the attached photographs and the identity and location of the aircraft are proving elusive. I believe all were taken in the USA. Any help gratefully received, thank you in advance.

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Image20240526_132817 by Dominic McNeice, on Flickr

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Image20240526_132910 by Dominic McNeice, on Flickr

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Image20240526_132949 by Dominic McNeice, on Flickr

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Image20240526_133025 by Dominic McNeice, on Flickr
Image20240526_133053 by Dominic McNeice, on Flickr

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Image20240526_133152 by Dominic McNeice, on Flickr

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Image20240526_133230 by Dominic McNeice, on Flickr

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Image20240526_133301 by Dominic McNeice, on Flickr

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Image20240526_133718 by Dominic McNeice, on Flickr

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Image20240526_133744 by Dominic McNeice, on Flickr

Many thanks
Dom
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The first is the Curtiss F9C-2 Sparrowhawk. There is only one and it is now in the Smithsonian but it is not hanging up as far as I can tell. So it maybe when it was previously at the Museum in Pensacola which would tie in with the others although the museum has somewhat been refurbished since these were taken by the look of it! PS Others may well know better!

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On that last photo (photo 9) I can see a tail sticking out behind that TBM that reminds me of a SB2C Helldiver. I found that Bu. 83479 used to be on display at the National Museum Of Naval Aviation, NAS Pensacola, as '212/H' between 1976 and 2002 (approx.), which would fit that dark blue tail with an H on it. See: http://www.warbirdregistry.org/helldive ... 83479.html The Avenger could be this one: http://www.warbirdregistry.org/avengerr ... 53593.html but I cannot be sure about that.

On that second to last photo (the rubbed down Avenger, photo 8) I can see a BD-5J hanging in the background. The colours on that look a lot like this one: https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-o ... 9840839000 Which could mean that this was at the Smithsonian or a storage area for the Smithsonian. The Curtiss pusher-type wings to the left of the Bede would fit this conclusion. Could these photos have been taken during a tour of the NASM's Paul Garber Facility ? Edit: that would mean that it's this airframe: http://www.warbirdregistry.org/avengerr ... 24085.html and https://airandspace.si.edu/air-and-spac ... 22/avenger

Photo 7 looks a lot like the display shown in the photos of F4F Bu. 12114, which is at the National Museum Of The Marine Corps in Virginia: http://www.warbirdregistry.org/f4fregis ... 12114.html

I would hazard a guess that photo 6 was taken at the same museum as photo 7, judging from the hangar walls and roof structure. The problem is that I cannot be sure about the matching F6F... it could be this one: http://www.warbirdregistry.org/f6fregis ... 41476.html but I would love a photo that matches the setting shown.

Photos no.4 appear to be this airframe: http://www.warbirdregistry.org/f4fregis ... 74120.html at the New England Air Museum, Windsor Locks, CT. See last photo on that page.

Photo 2 may well be at the same location as photo(s) no.4, as I can see the tailfeathers of the Wildcat on the F4U photo, and the F4U wings on the F4F photos. The hangar wall also looks the same. Edit: here's the appropriate Corsair: http://www.warbirdregistry.org/corsairr ... 80759.html

Photo no.3 could be this airframe: http://www.warbirdregistry.org/f4fregis ... 86747.html It has the same white line around the wheel hubs, general colour scheme and decals on the prop.

That leaves photo 5 as a puzzle. I have gone through these: http://www.warbirdregistry.org/f6fregis ... istry.html but there are several options that might fit. One clue in the photo is the glider on the left side. That makes it unlikely to be at Pensacola for example, but some of the other museums mentioned above might have had a glider in the collection. Perhaps the NASM/Paul Garber Facility again? That could make it this one: http://www.warbirdregistry.org/f6fregis ... 41834.html

As there are several different airframes of each type shown in the various photos, each photo could have been taken in a different location. Based on what I found, it looks like someone took a tour of various museums along the east coast of the USA.

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Re: Aircraft Identification Help Requested

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Thank you both very much for your help with these identifications, it is much appreciated. Thanks to your help, I make Photo #5 to be at the Cradle of Aviation Museum - the sailplane, trip hazard marks and hangar doors match photos there.
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HurriQuin
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