Simultaneous video?

[jh45]

I am really just starting out in taking the aviation photography more seriously, but would still like to capture some video of the aircraft manouvres - am thinking of mounting a camera or probably mobile phone in video mode on top of camera flash shoe and just leaving it running in record mode (on quite a wide setting ) - and accepting it will be pointing the wrong way at times as I check shots etc - however I can manage that in edit.

This can't be an uncommon requirement/desire (ie recording video as well) has someone got a more elegant solution to my crude approach ?

[sdad]

Take video on the camera and take still frames at the same time or take caps afterwards.

[EGDR]

Take video on the camera and take still frames at the same time or take caps afterwards.

Only a select few cameras offer the capability to capture full resolution still images at the same time as taking video.

Taking screenshots of a video after the fact will in no way at all compare to taking a photo. If your camera shoots 1080p video, like mine for example, the maximum resolution image you could grab from the video would be 1920x1080 pixels. Compare this to a still image from the same camera which is 6264x4180 pixels. That's before going into all the other more technical reasons why the quality would be abysmal in comparison.

The best option is a phone/action camera/camcorder attached to the hotshoe.

[TonyB]

Can this perhaps help you? It´s German firm but I should think that they ship also to other countries.

https://www.rollei.de/en/products/actio ... f-delivery

[jh45]

Can this perhaps help you? It´s German firm but I should think that they ship also to other countries.

https://www.rollei.de/en/products/actio ... f-delivery

Thanks - I have a Go Pro already I could mount I guess but the shots from tht are so wide which is why I am currently favouring mobile phone with a perhaps 2x or 3x zoom set on it and attached to hot shoe of camera (could also use as extra camera display I guess but I want it for the video)

[sdad]

Dear EGDR,
I am so glad you are familiar with my camera. 4K video and 8MP CAPs provide far superior stats than you suggest, without discussing the ability to take still frames during 2K recording. At 25fps for up to half an hour, you just take your pick!

[EGDR]

Dear EGDR,
I am so glad you are familiar with my camera.

If you note my post, I said "only a select few cameras" offer the capability for simultaneous stills and video capture. This is a factual statement. I did not say that your camera is not capable of this, but that it is likely that the OP's camera does not offer this function.

4K video and 8MP CAPs provide far superior stats than you suggest, without discussing the ability to take still frames during 2K recording.

Ignoring the myriad of technical reasons (dynamic range, file format, video encoding compression etc) why your screencaps of a video will not completely match the original quality of a similar resolution still RAW file, an 8 megapixel file was indeed great in 2005.

[sdad]

Why do you need more in 2024? I certainly don't. What's so special about RAW apart from bragging on the fence? My software can do the same with a JPG as the camera manufacturer's software does with a RAW.

Don't forget to counter the point about taking 'full size' still frames during 2K recording.

[EGDR]

Why do you need more in 2024? I certainly don't. What's so special about RAW apart from bragging on the fence? My software can do the same with a JPG as the camera manufacturer's software does with a RAW.

No it can't. It just literally can't. The information is simply not there. Your JPEG is baked in, it's an image file, with very limited leeway to any change. A RAW file is not an image, it is a data file, data which can be manipulated directly by software allowing a far greater latitude of results. White balance wrong? No matter, it can be changed after the fact. Underexposed? Again, no worries, as you can pull several stops back in post. The most modern of mirrorless and DSLR cameras are even termed by some as 'ISO neutral' when shooting RAW - as you effectively can get the same results shooting at ISO 100 and boosting to ISO 800 for example in post as you can by shooting at ISO 800 to begin with.

Besides, I don't think I've used my camera manufacturer's software for RAW conversion in over a decade.

Don't forget to counter the point about taking 'full size' still frames during 2K recording.

I did. What your camera can do is what your camera can do. That's great. Most, however, do not offer that capability, and I'm assuming OP's falls into that category by sheer probability.

[nighthawk999]

Why do you need more in 2024? I certainly don't. What's so special about RAW apart from bragging on the fence? My software can do the same with a JPG as the camera manufacturer's software does with a RAW.

Don't forget to counter the point about taking 'full size' still frames during 2K recording.

Fully agree with EGDR re RAW Vs jpegs.
As an event photographer for a media agency I always use RAW,jpegs straight from the camera would not be of acceptable quality for publication.

As for your remarks about RAW being for"bragging on the fence"you obviously don't know what you're talking about.

[Brenden S]

I would get an attachment for your hot shoe and use your phone as suggested. Most people put a gopro on the hot shoe mainly due to weight. At the end of the day most decent phones do 8k recording now.