Radom Air Show 2023 (26-27 August)

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Hi bobby 1211, clearly your enthusiasm for posting information is ONLY let down by your lack of understanding Plain English? :sleeping:
DO NOT post anything unless you can link, copy, or draw a picture of the source of your Information. Your info' has zero credibility without a verifiable reference. :zipper_mouth:
I trust you will understand my concern when you provide a list without the Polish Navy’s Kaman SH-2G Super Seasprite I wanted to see before it's Grounded due to lack of Manufacturer's support? :astonished:
It's really this easy :rolling_eyes: - - - - https://defence24.com/armed-forces/air/ ... nufacturer

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Well bobby 1211's list is a 'simple' calculation of everything which mentioned in the sublime air show app interactive maps (mentioned by Andyph) and items mentioned before on the air show internet site.
He even mentions what is new on the maps not mentioned before.

In the app and interactive maps no SH-2 and no Mi-24. (Although there are some empty helicopter parking spots...).

I'm more worried about the flypast as there is no mentioning of a Grot/Fly past of dozens aircraft. As far as I can see.

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Canberra TT.18 wrote:
Wed 09 Aug 2023, 4:57 am
Well bobby 1211's list is a 'simple' calculation of everything which mentioned in the sublime air show app interactive maps (mentioned by Andyph) and items mentioned before on the air show internet site.
He even mentions what is new on the maps not mentioned before.

In the app and interactive maps no SH-2 and no Mi-24. (Although there are some empty helicopter parking spots...).

I'm more worried about the flypast as there is no mentioning of a Grot/Fly past of dozens aircraft. As far as I can see.
Trust him at your peril - the only thing he is consistent on is incorrect information!
I think there is a lot of adding 2+2 goin on with the list - somehow looking at the map he can decipher if things are in the mass flypast or twilight show?

The program tab on the app gives Saturday as:
10.00-10.30 Historic aircraft
11.00-1200 Air Parade
12.00-1900 Dynamic shows
19.30-21.00 Night shows

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A reminder of Rule 7 please, chaps.

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Canberra TT.18 wrote:
Wed 09 Aug 2023, 4:57 am
Well bobby 1211's list is a 'simple' calculation of everything which mentioned in the sublime air show app interactive maps (mentioned by Andyph) and items mentioned before on the air show internet site.
He even mentions what is new on the maps not mentioned before.

In the app and interactive maps no SH-2 and no Mi-24. (Although there are some empty helicopter parking spots...).

I'm more worried about the flypast as there is no mentioning of a Grot/Fly past of dozens aircraft. As far as I can see.
Dont feed the trolls.
Anyway, the AH-64 and Italian F35 have disappeared.
More info will soon be announced about the flypast, the SH-2 and Mi-24 might be part of it, unfortunately as of now those two helis are not down for the static display. The full programme will be announced after the 15th of August.

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Stagger2 wrote:
Wed 09 Aug 2023, 12:03 am
Hi bobby 1211, clearly your enthusiasm for posting information is ONLY let down by your lack of understanding Plain English? :sleeping:
DO NOT post anything unless you can link, copy, or draw a picture of the source of your Information. Your info' has zero credibility without a verifiable reference. :zipper_mouth:
I trust you will understand my concern when you provide a list without the Polish Navy’s Kaman SH-2G Super Seasprite I wanted to see before it's Grounded due to lack of Manufacturer's support? :astonished:
It's really this easy :rolling_eyes: - - - - https://defence24.com/armed-forces/air/ ... nufacturer
Well this article was from 2018 so...
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Hi y'all, does anyone have a link of the static park map, as I've been seeing posts about it?

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Get the airshow App from the App Store, that has the maps on it

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I'm in Poland now (and leaving Poland on August 24th 🤦) but if you've never been can I just say what a fascinating and friendly country it is. If any of you avgeeks who are coming to the show are, or can, extend your trip, I highly recommend Gdansk, Wroclaw and Torun especially. History at every turn and whilst a lot of it isn't exactly uplifting, it's certainly very interesting.

The trains by the way are dead easy to book online and cheap. 3 of us are taking a 3 hour train ride tomorrow between 2 of the major cities (equivalent of say Bristol to Manchester) and it's £22.50 for all of us. But it's worth booking a few days ahead as they do get quite busy. This website is best : https://www.intercity.pl/en/

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CJS wrote:
Thu 10 Aug 2023, 7:35 pm
I'm in Poland now (and leaving Poland on August 24th 🤦) but if you've never been can I just say what a fascinating and friendly country it is. If any of you avgeeks who are coming to the show are, or can, extend your trip, I highly recommend Gdansk, Wroclaw and Torun especially. History at every turn and whilst a lot of it isn't exactly uplifting, it's certainly very interesting.

The trains by the way are dead easy to book online and cheap. 3 of us are taking a 3 hour train ride tomorrow between 2 of the major cities (equivalent of say Bristol to Manchester) and it's £22.50 for all of us. But it's worth booking a few days ahead as they do get quite busy. This website is best : https://www.intercity.pl/en/

Enjoy the show 👍🏼✈️
On the 15th of August at 2pm local time there will be a mass flypast in Warsaw, I think about 92 aircraft are planned to take part, might be worth going :D I cant find any official list of what is due to take part but for now the following are penciled in F16s, FA-50, Bayraktar TB2, MQ-9A, AW 101, S-70i, M-346 x3, C-295M x3, C-130 x2, M-28 Bryza x3, KC-135 and Team Orlik.

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Additionally, flights are planned Italy Typhoon and Usa F-35.

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bobby 1211 wrote:
Thu 10 Aug 2023, 7:50 pm
CJS wrote:
Thu 10 Aug 2023, 7:35 pm
I'm in Poland now (and leaving Poland on August 24th 🤦) but if you've never been can I just say what a fascinating and friendly country it is. If any of you avgeeks who are coming to the show are, or can, extend your trip, I highly recommend Gdansk, Wroclaw and Torun especially. History at every turn and whilst a lot of it isn't exactly uplifting, it's certainly very interesting.

The trains by the way are dead easy to book online and cheap. 3 of us are taking a 3 hour train ride tomorrow between 2 of the major cities (equivalent of say Bristol to Manchester) and it's £22.50 for all of us. But it's worth booking a few days ahead as they do get quite busy. This website is best : https://www.intercity.pl/en/

Enjoy the show 👍🏼✈️
On the 15th of August at 2pm local time there will be a mass flypast in Warsaw, I think about 92 aircraft are planned to take part, might be worth going :D I cant find any official list of what is due to take part but for now the following are penciled in F16s, FA-50, Bayraktar TB2, MQ-9A, AW 101, S-70i, M-346 x3, C-295M x3, C-130 x2, M-28 Bryza x3, KC-135 and Team Orlik.
I'll be the other side of the country so won't be able to see it, but if you'd be so good as to post the link please, I'm sure others might find it useful. Many thanks 🙂🇵🇱
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Hi spotters, my name is Reinaldo and i will go to the event travelling from Brazil. In 2018 i was there and had a event in Deblin Air Force Base, a open gate. It was in Thursday, two days before Radom Airshow. Do you know if will be something like this in this year ?

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reineves wrote:
Sat 12 Aug 2023, 1:56 am
Hi spotters, my name is Reinaldo and i will go to the event travelling from Brazil. In 2018 i was there and had a event in Deblin Air Force Base, a open gate. It was in Thursday, two days before Radom Airshow. Do you know if will be something like this in this year ?
I believe the open gate at Deblin has already taken place this year, on the 27th of May. https://piknik.law.mil.pl/

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reineves wrote:
Sat 12 Aug 2023, 1:56 am
Hi spotters, my name is Reinaldo and i will go to the event travelling from Brazil. In 2018 i was there and had a event in Deblin Air Force Base, a open gate. It was in Thursday, two days before Radom Airshow. Do you know if will be something like this in this year ?
There will be plenty of flying at Radom on the Thursday and Friday anyway Reinaldo

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Wissam24 wrote:
Wed 09 Aug 2023, 2:54 pm
Stagger2 wrote:
Wed 09 Aug 2023, 12:03 am
Hi bobby 1211, clearly your enthusiasm for posting information is ONLY let down by your lack of understanding Plain English? :sleeping:
DO NOT post anything unless you can link, copy, or draw a picture of the source of your Information. Your info' has zero credibility without a verifiable reference. :zipper_mouth:
I trust you will understand my concern when you provide a list without the Polish Navy’s Kaman SH-2G Super Seasprite I wanted to see before it's Grounded due to lack of Manufacturer's support? :astonished:
It's really this easy :rolling_eyes: - - - - https://defence24.com/armed-forces/air/ ... nufacturer
Well this article was from 2018 so...
Things take longer to achieve in Poland than the extended /late deliveries here in the UK imo. See this extract- 'On April 26, 2019, Poland acquired four Leonardo AW101 helicopters at a cost of PLN1.65 billion ($430 million) in an effort to begin replacing the Soviet-designed Mil Mi-14PL “Haze” helicopters that have been slated for retirement from Polish Navy service since 2015. The four AW101s are to be delivered by 2022.' I think you'll have seen the got their first one just last week! Therefore it's not unreasonable they are still flying 'A Seasprite' with parts scavenged from others? If not, was the earlier Radom listing the Seasprite for 2023 another lazy copy/paste?
Extract = https://dsm.forecastinternational.com/w ... ment-plan/
Delivery= See 'Tommy's' Interesting Internet 7th Aug 2023 (With credit to Photographer.)

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Andyph wrote:
Sat 12 Aug 2023, 9:17 am
reineves wrote:
Sat 12 Aug 2023, 1:56 am
Hi spotters, my name is Reinaldo and i will go to the event travelling from Brazil. In 2018 i was there and had a event in Deblin Air Force Base, a open gate. It was in Thursday, two days before Radom Airshow. Do you know if will be something like this in this year ?
There will be plenty of flying at Radom on the Thursday and Friday anyway Reinaldo
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Stagger2 wrote:
Sun 13 Aug 2023, 11:41 am
Wissam24 wrote:
Wed 09 Aug 2023, 2:54 pm
Stagger2 wrote:
Wed 09 Aug 2023, 12:03 am
Hi bobby 1211, clearly your enthusiasm for posting information is ONLY let down by your lack of understanding Plain English? :sleeping:
DO NOT post anything unless you can link, copy, or draw a picture of the source of your Information. Your info' has zero credibility without a verifiable reference. :zipper_mouth:
I trust you will understand my concern when you provide a list without the Polish Navy’s Kaman SH-2G Super Seasprite I wanted to see before it's Grounded due to lack of Manufacturer's support? :astonished:
It's really this easy :rolling_eyes: - - - - https://defence24.com/armed-forces/air/ ... nufacturer
Well this article was from 2018 so...
Things take longer to achieve in Poland than the extended /late deliveries here in the UK imo. See this extract- 'On April 26, 2019, Poland acquired four Leonardo AW101 helicopters at a cost of PLN1.65 billion ($430 million) in an effort to begin replacing the Soviet-designed Mil Mi-14PL “Haze” helicopters that have been slated for retirement from Polish Navy service since 2015. The four AW101s are to be delivered by 2022.' I think you'll have seen the got their first one just last week! Therefore it's not unreasonable they are still flying 'A Seasprite' with parts scavenged from others? If not, was the earlier Radom listing the Seasprite for 2023 another lazy copy/paste?
Extract = https://dsm.forecastinternational.com/w ... ment-plan/
Delivery= See 'Tommy's' Interesting Internet 7th Aug 2023 (With credit to Photographer.)
The air parade took place today and guess what? No Seasprite or Mi-24. Taking into consideration that the air parade at Radom will be smaller... well, I dont think you will be seeing a flying Seasprite anytime soon. :grimacing:
If anyone is wondering what took part today: Timestamp is 1:16:11 to 1:29:02 + 1:50:30 (F-35 X2 + F-16 closing the parade)

Anyway, it turns out that Poland actually has a SW-4 and M-346 demo (as I've already mentioned) with both set to do solo displays during Radom airshow, they will do rehearsals at Deblin air base on the 17th of August with some sort of press release for Radom (maybe they will release the full schedule)
W czwartek, 17 sierpnia o godz. 14:00, w 4 Skrzydle Lotnictwa Szkolnego w Dęblinie odbędzie się briefing prasowy Dowódcy Generalnego Rodzajów Sił Zbrojnych dotyczący Międzynarodowych Pokazów Lotniczych AIR SHOW Radom 2023.

W programie briefingu przewidziano wystąpienie Dowódcy Generalnego Rodzajów Sił Zbrojnych generała broni Wiesława Kukuły oraz trening otwarty dla dziennikarzy pilotów SW-4 Demo Team i M-346 Demo Team
The situation with the Su-22 however seems a little strange to me, I remember reading somewhere that they dont have an aisrshow pilot so they cant do displays, but are down for Radom and Nato days, I really hope they won't just do two or three flypasts and fly off as this might be the last chance to see them. There are very few of them left and they are soon relocating to Miroslawiec air base (they might have already relocated) while Swidwin air base is modernized to host the F35. BTW nice to see 8309 which was at RIAT this year, as one of the three Su-22s that took part.
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Cheers for posting but the flypast is between 1hr15 and 1hr31. Navy W-3 and Mi14 s look great as do the Su22s and MiG29s.

No idea when the F-35s appeared as I got bored looking at people standing up.
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I saw no F-35s, only a pair of Eurofighters with an F-16 at the end of the flypasts.

I spoke with the Su-22 pilots at RIAT, who told me the plan was a few passes from a single jet with pyros as a simulated airfield attack, in the Saturday evening show only.

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Youtube buffered the whole livestream so the timestamps changed, it should be working correctly now. The F35 flypast is at 1:50:30
BTW the Radom airshow social media account just announced that the air parade planned for Radom will feature 70 aircraft in 19 formations

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bobby 1211 wrote:
Tue 15 Aug 2023, 2:06 pm

The air parade took place today and guess what? No Seasprite or Mi-24. Taking into consideration that the air parade at Radom will be smaller... well, I dont think you will be seeing a flying Seasprite anytime soon. :grimacing:
Whilst I agree that a SH-2G is probably a remote chance, I don’t think I saw any SW-4s in that air parade either? Unless I was too lazy and skipped too quickly over them.

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