NATO & Czech Air Force Days 2023

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Now officially confirmed. A second F35A will be on static display, and a third will act as SP. All three from Lakenheath.

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Hungarian Mi-24, Baby Blue team, the static PC-9M and Polish S-70i have cancelled.

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RAF F-35B has been added for static + flying. Unexpected to say the least.

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+ Flying: L-39NG, L-159 ALCA, Mi-171 and W-3 SAR demo
static: Italian Tornado, L-159 ALCA and Mi-171

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+ Team Zelazny (Zlin Z-50LA x3)

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+ Czech Police Bell 412, flying

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+ L-410 and L-39C, both flying

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+ L-410 and a second AH-64 on static.

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+ Mi-24/35 & Mi-171S (Combat SAR Demo)

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+ USAF C-17, KC-135 and MQ-9, all three on static.

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Mig-29 and Su-22 have been cancelled ๐Ÿ˜•

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+ Polish Air Force FA-50 x2 on static. They are replacing the cancelled Su-22 and MiG-29.

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bobby 1211 wrote: โ†‘
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+ Polish Air Force FA-50 x2 on static. They are replacing the cancelled Su-22 and MiG-29.
Ouch.
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Slovak C-27J has been cancelled, in its place they are sending the L-39 CM.

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The L-39 CM has been cancelled ๐Ÿ˜‚. The French Rafale and Lithuanian AS365 also won't be attending.

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Polish Air Force have cancelled one of the FA-50, only one will appear on static display. The Belgian Air Force will also only send one F-16 instead of two.

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Belgian A400M has been cancelled

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+ Luxembourg A400M for static.

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Wow, the Czech Mi-24 crew is allowing people to sit in the cockpit! About 30min queue but totally worth it.

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bobby 1211 wrote: โ†‘
Fri 15 Sep 2023, 9:55 pm
Belgian A400M has been cancelled
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+ Luxembourg A400M for static.
Good to see our fleet in such examplary shape :rofl:

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I thought Radom was the worst organised airshow I've ever attended, well Ostrava might have just taken the no.1 spot. 3h queue to get in by car, 40min wait to use the toilet which costs money, 40min wait to buy drinks/food (of course you couldn't buy both from one place as they only sold either food or drinks๐Ÿ˜‚), no water refill points and now for the best part: trains. Every single one was overcrowded, about 1000+ people trying to pack into three coaches every 45min. People were clapping and cheering when they finally arrived. No information about departures/arrivals and the czech railways website kept on crashing, all the trains were also delayed. More than 60min waiting without any info about what was going on. Furthermore google maps does not have the railway timetable to it was even more difficult to plan your journey. Many fights broke out because others were refusing to give up their space. I also forgot to mention that when you arrive at the station you have to walk about 2.5 miles to reach the showground, which was actually nicely set up, but its just too small to host 100k+ people. Maybe limit the capacity?
I could go on and on but I am emotionally drained, one thing for sure I won't be returning until they fix up the transport to the show. The Czech Mi-24 crew allowing me (and others) to enter the pilots seat saved the day big time.

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bobby 1211 wrote: โ†‘
Sat 16 Sep 2023, 5:39 pm
I thought Radom was the worst organised airshow I've ever attended, well Ostrava might have just taken the no.1 spot. 3h queue to get in by car, 40min wait to use the toilet which costs money, 40min wait to buy drinks/food (of course you couldn't buy both from one place as they only sold either food or drinks๐Ÿ˜‚), no water refill points and now for the best part: trains. Every single one was overcrowded, about 1000+ people trying to pack into three coaches every 45min. People were clapping and cheering when they finally arrived. No information about departures/arrivals and the czech railways website kept on crashing, all the trains were also delayed. More than 60min waiting without any info about what was going on. Furthermore google maps does not have the railway timetable to it was even more difficult to plan your journey. Many fights broke out because others were refusing to give up their space. I also forgot to mention that when you arrive at the station you have to walk about 2.5 miles to reach the showground, which was actually nicely set up, but its just too small to host 100k+ people. Maybe limit the capacity?
I could go on and on but I am emotionally drained, one thing for sure I won't be returning until they fix up the transport to the show. The Czech Mi-24 crew allowing me (and others) to enter the pilots seat saved the day big time.
The issues getting on-base into the official show car-parks are well known and were extensively commented on last year. Best to use the unofficial car parks at the eastern Petrvald end of the airfield. At least you now know for future reference!
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bobby 1211 wrote: โ†‘
Sat 16 Sep 2023, 5:39 pm
I also forgot to mention that when you arrive at the station you have to walk about 2.5 miles to reach the showground, which was actually nicely set up, but its just too small to host 100k+ people. Maybe limit the capacity?
I could go on and on but I am emotionally drained, one thing for sure I won't be returning until they fix up the transport to the show.
OR relocate the Event to an airfield with a close-by railway station, with viable road links/access, that has a north-facing viewpoint & water bowsers? :wink: :slight_smile:

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Apparently 180k+ people attended over the two days which I think is a record. It was near impossible to move freely near the ground display zone because not only was the dedicated space very small, but they also placed big yellow bins in the middle causing human traffic jams. In case of any emergency you would 100% get a stampede. On Sunday I decided to travel to the airport 5 hours before my flight (because of the ongoing isssue of overcrowded trains which caused delays, leaving passengers at stations etc) and I had a better view and experience watching the displays from the airport watch area. The Mi-24 and Gripen C (while launching flares) flew directly above me, if anyone plans to visit Nato days in 2024 I suggest watching the displays from outside of the showground, even the car park just outside the entrance is great as the airplanes land over your head.

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I've attended NATO Days regularly since 2010. I now live out here as I have a Czech wife. Many of these issues are purely down to Czech culture, as she often reminds me and finds amusing too! It doesn't matter what it is, but the Czech's have to be the first to see something and then tell all their friends. So, even if the weather forecast is much better on Sunday, they will still go on the first day whatever. The line up of displays this year was good and obviously a draw that will help explain the record attendance. However, like all previous years, it was much quieter on Sunday and mainly due to the reason above.