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After 2004 and 2014, the swiss seem to have dropped Payerne as their jubilee airshow base. On 30 and 31 of august a show will be held at Emmen. Also the name Air looks dropped, as it is announced as airspirit 2024. For those thinking of going: this is the week before airpower, so it might be something to combine in one trip.

Unfortuinately, I've not been able to view the website yet, which should be https://airspirit24.ch
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It's an interesting location, I would bet on a north facing display line due to the built up areas around the airfield which would be great for photography. The north also has plenty of parking both within the base and the other side of the road for display aircraft.

The South makes sense due to the number of flat fields for parking near-by.

However, that means very little static, the only hard standing on the south side is at the RUAG facility.

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aviodromefriend wrote:
Thu 16 Nov 2023, 7:02 pm
For those thinking of going: this is the week before airpower, so it might be something to combine in one trip.
Would be rude not to!

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During previous events at Emmen, all static was in and near the hangars on the north side. The whole southside (RUAG) was off limits.

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So that’s a south display line then? That’s not exactly attractive!

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Am I looking at a different map than everyone else? Google shows the runway at Emmen oriented northeast-southwest (04-22). So if you're standing on the Patrouille Suisse side, yes the sun will be in front in the early hours but behind enough for what I'd assume to be the bulk of the show that the display won't be entirely backlit.
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The sun is directly down the runway at 15:02 local time on 30th August 2024.

So it depends a lot on the side the crowd are.

If they’re south side it will be the same as KB - great until the sun is in line with the runway then it becomes a backlit challenge.

If it’s north side, it’s backlit until that point.

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Gotcha. Looks like it might be one of those shows where you just bag the camera or get creative with editing then.

As an aside, being an airport ops guy, I'm intrigued by the road cutting through the south runway safety area...
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sylvancatharsis wrote:
Sun 19 Nov 2023, 8:39 am
Gotcha. Looks like it might be one of those shows where you just bag the camera or get creative with editing then.

As an aside, being an airport ops guy, I'm intrigued by the road cutting through the south runway safety area...
Well you've got Kolbenstrasse which is a footpath running across the runway, and Kirchfeldstrasse at the end of the runway. There's also Seetalstrasse and a railway line at the other end of the runway, not to mention the farms and light industry within the airfield boundary!

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sylvancatharsis wrote:
Sun 19 Nov 2023, 8:39 am
Gotcha. Looks like it might be one of those shows where you just bag the camera or get creative with editing then.

As an aside, being an airport ops guy, I'm intrigued by the road cutting through the south runway safety area...
If that intrigues you, visit Meiringen, Stans or Alpnach. Public roads crossing the runways is very common in Switzerland

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Airspirit24 has now been cancelled, and so possibly will be AXALP25

https://www.air-shows.org.uk/2024/01/ai ... rspirit24/

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There’s gonna be some mass hotel cancellations today! Luckily I always avoid the non-refundable deals.🤞No flights booked yet either.👌

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Things are definitely bad when the Swiss run out of money. After the gap this year I had Axalp pencilled in for 25 so hopefully it will return to the calendar.

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After AIR 94, AIR 04 and AIR 14, all of them huge air shows, this is really weird and unexpected decision.

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clearstone wrote:
Fri 26 Jan 2024, 12:00 pm
Airspirit24 has now been cancelled, and so possibly will be AXALP25

https://www.air-shows.org.uk/2024/01/ai ... rspirit24/
Sadly Axalp 2025 has indeed been cancelled :frowning2:

https://www.vtg.admin.ch/en/die-schweiz ... axalp.html

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Wonder if PdS might be pulled early?

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If money is the real Issue here, then nothing is secure from early retirement? :face_with_raised_eyebrow:
Maybe shouldn't have spunked all them Swiss Francs on a complex fighter-jet they have no real requirement for? :thinking:

From a personal perspective I had thought the Boeing F/A-18E and F/A-18F Super Hornet with 2-engines for avoiding all those pointy bits of rock was the way to go? :innocent:

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Stagger2 wrote:
Thu 01 Feb 2024, 12:25 am
If money is the real Issue here, then nothing is secure from early retirement? :face_with_raised_eyebrow:
Maybe shouldn't have spunked all them Swiss Francs on a complex fighter-jet they have no real requirement for? :thinking:

From a personal perspective I had thought the Boeing F/A-18E and F/A-18F Super Hornet with 2-engines for avoiding all those pointy bits of rock was the way to go? :innocent:
I think buying new fighters rather than spending money on airshows and aerobatics teams flying outdated machines might be more important in a volatile world.

The only land based arm to by Super Hornet (Apart from Kuwait) was Australia and that was lots of Politics - I've heard it described by the RAAF as a modern Brewster Buffalo!
Certainly was not their first choice.

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Couldn't agree more that Defence Spending should be focused on Real-World situations, but my initial tongue-in-cheek comment referred to the alleged shortage of spondoolies within a perceived wealthy Country? :astonished:
As soon as there is an aggressive incursion into Switzerland , they will quickly jump off the fence & become a Full NATO Member State. :wink: Somewhat more unlikely Austria can ever join NATO due to historic clause in their constitution?
That still leaves the barely noticed Lichtenstein as a committed neutral entity! :see_no_evil: :hear_no_evil: :speak_no_evil:

Haven't really seen negative reports on the Super-Bug, so maybe those RAAF Jockeys are just bummed they didn't get posted on F-35's? :grimacing:

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